On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 12:45 PM Mohsen Farshad
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Christoph,
>
> Is this correction answer to my question number 2, "Does the FM technique aim 
> to extract a table potential for CG system from the atomistic system with 
> matching the forces? Can we use this extracted FM potential table for CG 
> simulations --- not IBI, just normal CG MD simulation? If so would you please 
> let me know how can I use this potential table to run CG simulations and what 
> files are needed for that?":
>
> gmx grompp -f grompp.mdp - p topol.top -c confout.gro
> gmx mdrun -table table_CG_CG.xvg
>
> where confout.gro is GC configuration file, and table_CG_CG.xvg is the 
> potential table extracted from FM technique.
Yes that that is correct, but can also use the mapped atomistic
conf.gro  instead of confout.gro

Christoph
>
> Thanks,
> Mohsen
>
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 11:56 AM Mohsen Farshad <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the explanation. I have still some difficulty understanding the 
>> process, and I have the following questions:
>>
>> 1. Are C6 and C12 are literally summed up ("+") or they are just combined 
>> during the FM process --- essentially they have not ever gotten separated?
>>
>> 2. Does the FM technique aim to extract a table potential for CG system from 
>> the atomistic system with matching the forces? Can we use this extracted FM 
>> potential table for CG simulations --- not IBI, just normal CG MD 
>> simulation? If so would you please let me know how can I use this potential 
>> table to run CG simulations and what files are needed for that?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Mohsen
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 5:07 PM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 8:47 AM Mohsen Farshad <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the explanation. I am a bit confused. Is there any repulsion 
>>> > term in the Votca potential? Would you please explain what kind of 
>>> > potential is that?
>>>
>>> Gromacs just has the C6 and C12 tables columns, but in the case of
>>> VOTCA we just add the C6 and C12 parts together and you can make one
>>> of them zero.
>>> (see 
>>> https://manual.gromacs.org/documentation/2019.5/reference-manual/special/tabulated-interaction-functions.html#user-specified-potential-functions)
>>> Basically because it is not easy to separate the C6 from the C12 part
>>> and also because you can do some funky things by using the C6 part for
>>> something else.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Also in SPCE tutorial, to run CG simulation, it is suggested to use the 
>>> > files for ibi example. I have a few questions in regards to this part of 
>>> > the tutorial:
>>> >
>>> > 1. What command should I use to run coarse grain:
>>> >
>>> > "gmx grompp"  and then "gmx mdrun -v"
>>> This runs a MD simulation directly only use that after coarse-graining
>>> or for atomistic simulation.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > or "csg_inverse --options settings.xml"
>>> This is the right command to do IBI
>>>
>>> >
>>> > 1. Would you explicitly explain how should I adjust the settings.xml to 
>>> > make it compatible with the potential table that comes from FM. The 
>>> > current IBI setting.xml uses IBI interactive algorithm. Is that needed to 
>>> > run CG simulation using FM potential? --- if setting.xml is not needed 
>>> > please ignore this question.
>>>
>>> FM is a different CG method than IBI. FM is one shot and done, while
>>> IBI is iterative.
>>> You could use the FM potential as a starting potential for IBI, but
>>> this is kind of pointless as FM matches the forces, while IBI matches
>>> the structure.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > 3. For CG simulation the CG configuration should be used or atomistic one?
>>> The CG one.
>>>
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Thank you,
>>> > Mohsen
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:38 PM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 5:47 PM Mohsen Farshad 
>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Here are the potential, force, and output potentials. Would you please 
>>> >> > let me know whether they are correct?
>>> >> The outcomes are actually correct.
>>> >>
>>> >> Your forces and the potential ends at 0.9nm and so is the xvg file.
>>> >> The values smaller than 0.9nm are not zero.
>>> >> We shift the potential in such a way that it is zero at the cutoff,
>>> >> hence all values for r> 0.9nm are zero.
>>> >> We put the values in the C12 column of the gromacs xvg table, hence
>>> >> columns 2-5 are empty and only columns 6+7 have numbers.
>>> >>
>>> >> Christoph
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thank you,
>>> >> > Mohsen
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 6:34 PM Christoph Junghans 
>>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 3:04 PM Mohsen Farshad 
>>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Hi Christoph,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I was able to install the Votca using Spack. However, going through 
>>> >> >> > the tutorial I confronted an error after executing the following 
>>> >> >> > command:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > csg_call table integrate CG-CG.force CG-CG.pot
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > The last lines of the error is as follows:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >   #000: 
>>> >> >> > /tmp/tuo98996/spack-stage/spack-stage-hdf5-1.10.7-3mcrng3jtezm72xs2i2fbwpwzogxsupf/spack-src/src/H5T.c
>>> >> >> >  line 1708 in H5Tcopy(): not a datatype or dataset
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >     major: Invalid arguments to routine
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >     minor: Inappropriate type
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Running subscript 'table_integrate.pl CG-CG.force CG-CG.pot' (from 
>>> >> >> > tags table integrate) dir 
>>> >> >> > /home/tuo98996/spack/opt/spack/linux-centos7-broadwell/gcc-9.3.0/votca-csg-stable-7slgbunnjcw6657pwdjeshozxpfzi3d5/share/votca/scripts/invers
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > The resulting CG table potential is zero for all the distances.
>>> >> >> The integrate script will only act on the first valid point, usually
>>> >> >> marked with "i" in the last column of the force table.
>>> >> >> So that might be the problem. Otherwise send us the force table and we
>>> >> >> can have a look as well.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Christoph
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Looking forward to your feedback,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Mohsen
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 7:02 PM Christoph Junghans 
>>> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Can you run "spack cd -b votca-csg@stable" and look for a .log 
>>> >> >> >> file in there?
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Christoph
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 2:42 PM Mohsen Farshad 
>>> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > On the cluster, the run is not ending now. In my own machine, it 
>>> >> >> >> > says:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > ==> Error: votca-csg-stable-t3g3evics7o4vvqtxxunsnx2p67u56bg: 
>>> >> >> >> > Package was not installed
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > ==> Error: Installation request failed.  Refer to reported 
>>> >> >> >> > errors for failing package(s).
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > The last comment on the cluster is following:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > [+] 
>>> >> >> >> > /home/tuo98996/spack/opt/spack/linux-centos7-haswell/gcc-4.8.5/gromacs-2019.6-xtfitykzurvzarvflpj2v6cu3wywr5fc
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 4:38 PM Christoph Junghans 
>>> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 2:34 PM Mohsen Farshad 
>>> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Hi Christoph,
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > After cloning Spack I inserted the following commands on my 
>>> >> >> >> >> > own machine and the cluster, but neither machines were able 
>>> >> >> >> >> > to successfully complete the installation after a relatively 
>>> >> >> >> >> > long time.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > git clone https://github.com/spack/spack.git spack
>>> >> >> >> >> > source spack/share/spack/setup-env.sh
>>> >> >> >> >> > spack install votca-csg@stable
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Do you think there is something wrong with the compiler or I 
>>> >> >> >> >> > am missing some commands and installation is more complicated 
>>> >> >> >> >> > than I am thinking of?
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Can you post the error message?
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Christoph
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > I have made sure the Spack is updated.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Looking forward to hearing from you,
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >> >> >> > Mohsen
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 10:01 AM Christoph Junghans 
>>> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 3:52 PM Christoph Junghans 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 3:42 PM Mohsen Farshad 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hi Votca developers,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Is there a way to solve this issue without the need for 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > installation of "votca@stable" using spack?
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Not really, we really have to make a 2021.1 release and 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > bump the spackage.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Alternatively, you could apply the code change of the patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > (https://github.com/votca/tools/commit/6bb7e35ba7d1a31247eafb323be2777ec0439cfe)
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > manually.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > I also made a quick fix in spack: 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > https://github.com/spack/spack/pull/24815
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Once that is merged, you should be good to go.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> The fix is part of spack now, just pull the latest version 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> of spack
>>> >> >> >> >> >> and everything should be fine.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Christoph
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Thanks,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Mohsen
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > From: [email protected] <Unknown>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Date: Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 6:09:31 PM UTC-4
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Subject: C++ Compiler issue
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > To: [email protected] <Unknown>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hi Votca developers,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > My question: C++ Compiler issue: I am trying to install 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > VOTCA on a supercomputer using spack. I am getting a C++ 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > error. Could you please have a look at the attached log 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > file? I am trying to figure out what my next steps are.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Response from Christoph:  The issue you found is already 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > fixed (see
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > https://github.com/votca/tools/pull/361), but not part 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > of a release
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > yet.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > You can install "votca@stable" using spack to get the 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > fix.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Apologies for the test email.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Thank you
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Akash
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
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