Thank you very much! I have still a single remaining confusion.

Does this mean if I use atomistic configuration and topology files with GC
potential table, the system automatically runs coarse-grained simulation
using the following commands:

gmx grompp -f grompp.mdp - p topol.top -c conf.gro
gmx mdrun -table table_CG_CG.xvg

where conf.gro and topol are atomistic configuration and topology files,
and table_CG_CG.xvg is the potential table extracted from FM technique.

Thanks,
Mohsen



On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:09 PM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 12:45 PM Mohsen Farshad
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Christoph,
> >
> > Is this correction answer to my question number 2, "Does the FM
> technique aim to extract a table potential for CG system from the atomistic
> system with matching the forces? Can we use this extracted FM potential
> table for CG simulations --- not IBI, just normal CG MD simulation? If so
> would you please let me know how can I use this potential table to run CG
> simulations and what files are needed for that?":
> >
> > gmx grompp -f grompp.mdp - p topol.top -c confout.gro
> > gmx mdrun -table table_CG_CG.xvg
> >
> > where confout.gro is GC configuration file, and table_CG_CG.xvg is the
> potential table extracted from FM technique.
> Yes that that is correct, but can also use the mapped atomistic
> conf.gro  instead of confout.gro
>
> Christoph
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mohsen
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 11:56 AM Mohsen Farshad <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the explanation. I have still some difficulty understanding
> the process, and I have the following questions:
> >>
> >> 1. Are C6 and C12 are literally summed up ("+") or they are just
> combined during the FM process --- essentially they have not ever gotten
> separated?
> >>
> >> 2. Does the FM technique aim to extract a table potential for CG system
> from the atomistic system with matching the forces? Can we use this
> extracted FM potential table for CG simulations --- not IBI, just normal CG
> MD simulation? If so would you please let me know how can I use this
> potential table to run CG simulations and what files are needed for that?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Mohsen
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 5:07 PM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 8:47 AM Mohsen Farshad <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks for the explanation. I am a bit confused. Is there any
> repulsion term in the Votca potential? Would you please explain what kind
> of potential is that?
> >>>
> >>> Gromacs just has the C6 and C12 tables columns, but in the case of
> >>> VOTCA we just add the C6 and C12 parts together and you can make one
> >>> of them zero.
> >>> (see
> https://manual.gromacs.org/documentation/2019.5/reference-manual/special/tabulated-interaction-functions.html#user-specified-potential-functions
> )
> >>> Basically because it is not easy to separate the C6 from the C12 part
> >>> and also because you can do some funky things by using the C6 part for
> >>> something else.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Also in SPCE tutorial, to run CG simulation, it is suggested to use
> the files for ibi example. I have a few questions in regards to this part
> of the tutorial:
> >>> >
> >>> > 1. What command should I use to run coarse grain:
> >>> >
> >>> > "gmx grompp"  and then "gmx mdrun -v"
> >>> This runs a MD simulation directly only use that after coarse-graining
> >>> or for atomistic simulation.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > or "csg_inverse --options settings.xml"
> >>> This is the right command to do IBI
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > 1. Would you explicitly explain how should I adjust the settings.xml
> to make it compatible with the potential table that comes from FM. The
> current IBI setting.xml uses IBI interactive algorithm. Is that needed to
> run CG simulation using FM potential? --- if setting.xml is not needed
> please ignore this question.
> >>>
> >>> FM is a different CG method than IBI. FM is one shot and done, while
> >>> IBI is iterative.
> >>> You could use the FM potential as a starting potential for IBI, but
> >>> this is kind of pointless as FM matches the forces, while IBI matches
> >>> the structure.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > 3. For CG simulation the CG configuration should be used or
> atomistic one?
> >>> The CG one.
> >>>
> >>> Christoph
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Thank you,
> >>> > Mohsen
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:38 PM Christoph Junghans <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 5:47 PM Mohsen Farshad <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Here are the potential, force, and output potentials. Would you
> please let me know whether they are correct?
> >>> >> The outcomes are actually correct.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Your forces and the potential ends at 0.9nm and so is the xvg file.
> >>> >> The values smaller than 0.9nm are not zero.
> >>> >> We shift the potential in such a way that it is zero at the cutoff,
> >>> >> hence all values for r> 0.9nm are zero.
> >>> >> We put the values in the C12 column of the gromacs xvg table, hence
> >>> >> columns 2-5 are empty and only columns 6+7 have numbers.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Christoph
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Thank you,
> >>> >> > Mohsen
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 6:34 PM Christoph Junghans <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 3:04 PM Mohsen Farshad <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Hi Christoph,
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > I was able to install the Votca using Spack. However, going
> through the tutorial I confronted an error after executing the following
> command:
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > csg_call table integrate CG-CG.force CG-CG.pot
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > The last lines of the error is as follows:
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >   #000:
> /tmp/tuo98996/spack-stage/spack-stage-hdf5-1.10.7-3mcrng3jtezm72xs2i2fbwpwzogxsupf/spack-src/src/H5T.c
> line 1708 in H5Tcopy(): not a datatype or dataset
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >     major: Invalid arguments to routine
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >     minor: Inappropriate type
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Running subscript 'table_integrate.pl CG-CG.force CG-CG.pot'
> (from tags table integrate) dir
> /home/tuo98996/spack/opt/spack/linux-centos7-broadwell/gcc-9.3.0/votca-csg-stable-7slgbunnjcw6657pwdjeshozxpfzi3d5/share/votca/scripts/invers
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > The resulting CG table potential is zero for all the distances.
> >>> >> >> The integrate script will only act on the first valid point,
> usually
> >>> >> >> marked with "i" in the last column of the force table.
> >>> >> >> So that might be the problem. Otherwise send us the force table
> and we
> >>> >> >> can have a look as well.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Christoph
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Looking forward to your feedback,
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Thanks,
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Mohsen
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 7:02 PM Christoph Junghans <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Can you run "spack cd -b votca-csg@stable" and look for a
> .log file in there?
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Christoph
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 2:42 PM Mohsen Farshad <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > On the cluster, the run is not ending now. In my own
> machine, it says:
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > ==> Error:
> votca-csg-stable-t3g3evics7o4vvqtxxunsnx2p67u56bg: Package was not installed
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > ==> Error: Installation request failed.  Refer to reported
> errors for failing package(s).
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > The last comment on the cluster is following:
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > [+]
> /home/tuo98996/spack/opt/spack/linux-centos7-haswell/gcc-4.8.5/gromacs-2019.6-xtfitykzurvzarvflpj2v6cu3wywr5fc
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 4:38 PM Christoph Junghans <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 2:34 PM Mohsen Farshad <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > Hi Christoph,
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > After cloning Spack I inserted the following commands on
> my own machine and the cluster, but neither machines were able to
> successfully complete the installation after a relatively long time.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > git clone https://github.com/spack/spack.git spack
> >>> >> >> >> >> > source spack/share/spack/setup-env.sh
> >>> >> >> >> >> > spack install votca-csg@stable
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > Do you think there is something wrong with the compiler
> or I am missing some commands and installation is more complicated than I
> am thinking of?
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> Can you post the error message?
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> Christoph
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > I have made sure the Spack is updated.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > Looking forward to hearing from you,
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >>> >> >> >> >> > Mohsen
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 10:01 AM Christoph Junghans <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 3:52 PM Christoph Junghans <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 3:42 PM Mohsen Farshad <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hi Votca developers,
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Is there a way to solve this issue without the need
> for installation of "votca@stable" using spack?
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Not really, we really have to make a 2021.1 release
> and bump the spackage.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Alternatively, you could apply the code change of the
> patch
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > (
> https://github.com/votca/tools/commit/6bb7e35ba7d1a31247eafb323be2777ec0439cfe
> )
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > manually.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > I also made a quick fix in spack:
> https://github.com/spack/spack/pull/24815
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Once that is merged, you should be good to go.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> The fix is part of spack now, just pull the latest
> version of spack
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> and everything should be fine.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Christoph
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Thanks,
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Mohsen
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > From: [email protected] <Unknown>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Date: Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 6:09:31 PM UTC-4
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Subject: C++ Compiler issue
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > To: [email protected] <Unknown>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hi Votca developers,
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > My question: C++ Compiler issue: I am trying to
> install VOTCA on a supercomputer using spack. I am getting a C++ error.
> Could you please have a look at the attached log file? I am trying to
> figure out what my next steps are.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Response from Christoph:  The issue you found is
> already fixed (see
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > https://github.com/votca/tools/pull/361), but not
> part of a release
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > yet.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > You can install "votca@stable" using spack to get
> the fix.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Apologies for the test email.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Thank you
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Akash
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > --
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> .
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > --
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Christoph Junghans
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Web: http://www.compphys.de
> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
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> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Web: http://www.compphys.de
> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>
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