Dear Sir,

I used this command line for bonded distribution:

csg_boltzmann --top topol.tpr --trj traj.trr --cg propane.xml <
boltzmann_cmds

After that, got average bond length and angle distribution. And, bond
section is already present in my propane.xml file. But, still dint get any
plottable bond1.dist.ib and bond2.dist.ib files.
I am attaching the files here.
 Please kindly help me

Thanks & Regards
Kankana Bhattacharjee



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On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:26 AM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
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>
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 5:22 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> I am trying to generate the histogram of bonded distribution and convert
>> into the boltzmann inverted potential for single propane which is given in
>> the tutorial. Since, in case of CG propane two bond length is present
>> (A1-B1 and B1-A2) which is mentioned in the propane.xml file and similarly
>> one angle. So, I am not understanding how can I generate distribution of
>> every bond of propane molecule. I have performed short 5 ps run of single
>> propane molecule. When I am adding the line in boltzmann.cmds as:
>> hist bond1.dist.ib *:bond1:*
>> hist bond2.dist.ib *:bond2:*, then no plottable
>> bond1.dist.ib/bond2.dist.ib is generating.
>>
>> If you don't want to average over the 2 bonds the easiest way to do that
> is to add another bond block here:
>
> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/propane/atomistic/propane.xml#L34_L40
>
> the names should be "bond1" and "bond2" for your application above.
>
> And then run csg_stat (or csg_boltzmann):
>
> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/propane/atomistic/run.sh#L22
>
> Christoph
>
> There is
>
>> My aim is to generate the every bond length histogram
>> Please provide me the suggestions.
>>
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>> Ph. D. Scholar
>> Department of Chemistry
>> Ashoka University
>> Sonipat, Haryana
>>
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>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:45 AM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:46 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok sir.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried to perform boltzmann inversion after short (5 ps)
>>>> atomistic MD run of propane. I am attaching the corresponding grompp.mdp
>>>> file of the atomistic run, distributed bonded potential files, and
>>>> boltzmann inverted bonded potential files. But, not understanding how these
>>>> potential are helping in generating the itp file of CG propane.
>>>>
>>> Well once you have the inverted potentials you can use them in the CG
>>> run, *.pot is the VOTCA format, which you have to convert to xvg (see
>>> https://www.votca.org/csg/preparing.html#exporting-the-table)
>>>
>>> the table_a1 (a1 for Angle 1) and table_b1 (b1 for Bond 1) in the
>>> propane tutorials were generated this way:
>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/tree/master/csg-tutorials/propane/ibi
>>>
>>> And, the thing which I understood is that, boltzmann inversion is used
>>>> for getting all atom inverted potential and force matching is used for
>>>> getting non-bonded potentials.
>>>>
>>> For you can use iterative boltzmann inversion for the non-bonded
>>> interactions.
>>> (Force-matching works for bonded interactions as well, but VOTCA has
>>> implemented that)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> CG propane itp  (topol.top) file is available in ibi/imc methods part
>>>> of votca. Can it be supplied in performing CG-MD simulation using GROMACS ?
>>>>
>>> If you run the propane tutorial after a couple of steps you will have
>>> some tabulated potential that you can use for CG-MD.
>>>
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:10 AM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:33 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you sir. I would like to know, how can one get gromacs
>>>>>> compatible itp file for a Coarse grained model using votca ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> It is all tabulated interaction, hence no itp files.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the interactions are determined by IBI, IMC or Force Matching,
>>>>> whatever you prefer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 9:58 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 10:13 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot sir for your kind help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have gone through the topol.top file of spce and propane model
>>>>>>>> using ibi method. I have doubts, how did you define the mass of the 
>>>>>>>> beads,
>>>>>>>> charge, bond and angle between beads in topol.top file of the CG model 
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a center of mass mapping it is just the sum of the masses (and
>>>>>>> charges), but of course you can do other mappings, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In general making a coarse-grained model is more art than science.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 9:15 PM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 7:23 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > I am learning votca. Now, I have done spce water model atomistic
>>>>>>>>> md run. In the spce/atomistic foolder, grompp.mdp contains integrator 
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> "sd" . And, I used this settings for short MD run. Then, used 
>>>>>>>>> csg_tool to
>>>>>>>>> compute rdf of CG-CG beads and compared with CG-CG with ibi. Then, I 
>>>>>>>>> dint
>>>>>>>>> understand the "Running ibi" part of the spce model. It has been 
>>>>>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>>>> reduce the number of MD steps in grompp.mdp and adjust the 
>>>>>>>>> equilibration
>>>>>>>>> time in the settings.xml file. Exactly how to adjust this and why ? I 
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> skipped the "Running ibi" option.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, the number of MD steps is in grompp.mdp, while the
>>>>>>>>> equilibration
>>>>>>>>> time is in settings.xml. Longer run will give you smoother RDFs,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the system usually needs some time to equilibrate from the initial
>>>>>>>>> condition, so you don't want to pick that too short. In the
>>>>>>>>> tutorial
>>>>>>>>> we ask folks to explore these options to get some feel for
>>>>>>>>> statistics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Second;y, I did force matching part exactly. But, dint
>>>>>>>>> understand exactly what is happening. Like, If I want to generate 
>>>>>>>>> gromacs
>>>>>>>>> compatible forcefield.itp for a coarse grained model and perform MD
>>>>>>>>> simulation using gromacs. THen, how can I generate ttp file for a 
>>>>>>>>> molecule.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Force matching return a tabulated force that can then be used to
>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>> the coarse-grained simulation. Have a look at the topol.top of the
>>>>>>>>> spce/ibi example.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>>> > Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>> >
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<cg_molecule>
  <name>ppn</name>
  <ident>Protein</ident>
  <topology>
    <cg_beads>
      <cg_bead>
        <name>A1</name>
        <type>A</type>
        <symmetry>1</symmetry>
        <mapping>A</mapping>
        <beads> 1:ppn:C1 1:ppn:H4 1:ppn:H5 1:ppn:H6 </beads>
      </cg_bead>

      <cg_bead>
        <name>B1</name>
        <type>B</type>
        <symmetry>1</symmetry>
        <mapping>B</mapping>
        <beads> 1:ppn:C2 1:ppn:H7 1:ppn:H8  </beads>
      </cg_bead>

      <cg_bead>
        <name>A2</name>
        <type>A</type>
        <symmetry>1</symmetry>
        <mapping>A</mapping>
        <beads> 1:ppn:C3 1:ppn:H9 1:ppn:H10 1:ppn:H11 </beads>
      </cg_bead>

    </cg_beads>

    <cg_bonded>

      <bond>
        <name>bond</name>
        <beads>
        A1 B1
        B1 A2
        </beads>
      </bond>

      <angle>
        <name>angle</name>
        <beads>
        A1 B1 A2
        </beads>
      </angle>
    </cg_bonded>
  </topology>

  <maps>
    <map>
      <name>A</name>
      <weights> 12 1 1 1 </weights>
    </map>
    
        <map>
      <name>B</name>
      <weights> 12 1 1 </weights>
    </map>
  </maps>
</cg_molecule>

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