Dear Sir,

I have included the individual bond section in propane.xml file. Now,
distribution is generating.
But, for getting non-bonded parameters, which procedure should I have to
follow ? I can use either Force Matching or Iterative methods to get
non-bonded parameters.





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On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 9:49 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
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> Dear Sir,
>
> I used this command line for bonded distribution:
>
> csg_boltzmann --top topol.tpr --trj traj.trr --cg propane.xml <
> boltzmann_cmds
>
> After that, got average bond length and angle distribution. And, bond
> section is already present in my propane.xml file. But, still dint get any
> plottable bond1.dist.ib and bond2.dist.ib files.
> I am attaching the files here.
>  Please kindly help me
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>
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> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:26 AM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 5:22 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Sir,
>>>
>>> I am trying to generate the histogram of bonded distribution and convert
>>> into the boltzmann inverted potential for single propane which is given in
>>> the tutorial. Since, in case of CG propane two bond length is present
>>> (A1-B1 and B1-A2) which is mentioned in the propane.xml file and similarly
>>> one angle. So, I am not understanding how can I generate distribution of
>>> every bond of propane molecule. I have performed short 5 ps run of single
>>> propane molecule. When I am adding the line in boltzmann.cmds as:
>>> hist bond1.dist.ib *:bond1:*
>>> hist bond2.dist.ib *:bond2:*, then no plottable
>>> bond1.dist.ib/bond2.dist.ib is generating.
>>>
>>> If you don't want to average over the 2 bonds the easiest way to do that
>> is to add another bond block here:
>>
>> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/propane/atomistic/propane.xml#L34_L40
>>
>> the names should be "bond1" and "bond2" for your application above.
>>
>> And then run csg_stat (or csg_boltzmann):
>>
>> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/propane/atomistic/run.sh#L22
>>
>> Christoph
>>
>> There is
>>
>>> My aim is to generate the every bond length histogram
>>> Please provide me the suggestions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>> Ph. D. Scholar
>>> Department of Chemistry
>>> Ashoka University
>>> Sonipat, Haryana
>>>
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>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:45 AM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:46 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried to perform boltzmann inversion after short (5 ps)
>>>>> atomistic MD run of propane. I am attaching the corresponding grompp.mdp
>>>>> file of the atomistic run, distributed bonded potential files, and
>>>>> boltzmann inverted bonded potential files. But, not understanding how 
>>>>> these
>>>>> potential are helping in generating the itp file of CG propane.
>>>>>
>>>> Well once you have the inverted potentials you can use them in the CG
>>>> run, *.pot is the VOTCA format, which you have to convert to xvg (see
>>>> https://www.votca.org/csg/preparing.html#exporting-the-table)
>>>>
>>>> the table_a1 (a1 for Angle 1) and table_b1 (b1 for Bond 1) in the
>>>> propane tutorials were generated this way:
>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/tree/master/csg-tutorials/propane/ibi
>>>>
>>>> And, the thing which I understood is that, boltzmann inversion is used
>>>>> for getting all atom inverted potential and force matching is used for
>>>>> getting non-bonded potentials.
>>>>>
>>>> For you can use iterative boltzmann inversion for the non-bonded
>>>> interactions.
>>>> (Force-matching works for bonded interactions as well, but VOTCA has
>>>> implemented that)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> CG propane itp  (topol.top) file is available in ibi/imc methods part
>>>>> of votca. Can it be supplied in performing CG-MD simulation using GROMACS 
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>> If you run the propane tutorial after a couple of steps you will have
>>>> some tabulated potential that you can use for CG-MD.
>>>>
>>>> Christoph
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:10 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:33 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you sir. I would like to know, how can one get gromacs
>>>>>>> compatible itp file for a Coarse grained model using votca ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is all tabulated interaction, hence no itp files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the interactions are determined by IBI, IMC or Force Matching,
>>>>>> whatever you prefer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 9:58 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 10:13 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot sir for your kind help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have gone through the topol.top file of spce and propane model
>>>>>>>>> using ibi method. I have doubts, how did you define the mass of the 
>>>>>>>>> beads,
>>>>>>>>> charge, bond and angle between beads in topol.top file of the CG 
>>>>>>>>> model ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For a center of mass mapping it is just the sum of the masses (and
>>>>>>>> charges), but of course you can do other mappings, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In general making a coarse-grained model is more art than science.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 9:15 PM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 7:23 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I am learning votca. Now, I have done spce water model
>>>>>>>>>> atomistic md run. In the spce/atomistic foolder, grompp.mdp contains
>>>>>>>>>> integrator as "sd" . And, I used this settings for short MD run. 
>>>>>>>>>> Then, used
>>>>>>>>>> csg_tool to compute rdf of CG-CG beads and compared with CG-CG with 
>>>>>>>>>> ibi.
>>>>>>>>>> Then, I dint understand the "Running ibi" part of the spce model. It 
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> been asked to reduce the number of MD steps in grompp.mdp and adjust 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> equilibration time in the settings.xml file. Exactly how to adjust 
>>>>>>>>>> this and
>>>>>>>>>> why ? I have skipped the "Running ibi" option.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, the number of MD steps is in grompp.mdp, while the
>>>>>>>>>> equilibration
>>>>>>>>>> time is in settings.xml. Longer run will give you smoother RDFs,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the system usually needs some time to equilibrate from the initial
>>>>>>>>>> condition, so you don't want to pick that too short. In the
>>>>>>>>>> tutorial
>>>>>>>>>> we ask folks to explore these options to get some feel for
>>>>>>>>>> statistics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Second;y, I did force matching part exactly. But, dint
>>>>>>>>>> understand exactly what is happening. Like, If I want to generate 
>>>>>>>>>> gromacs
>>>>>>>>>> compatible forcefield.itp for a coarse grained model and perform MD
>>>>>>>>>> simulation using gromacs. THen, how can I generate ttp file for a 
>>>>>>>>>> molecule.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Force matching return a tabulated force that can then be used to
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>> the coarse-grained simulation. Have a look at the topol.top of the
>>>>>>>>>> spce/ibi example.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>>>> > Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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