E olha que ele é irmão do George W. Bush! Chadel
A respeito de [VotoEletronico] Re: Flórida abandona urnas eletrônica do tipo brasileiro, em 02/02/2007, 10:44, Paulo Mora de Freitas escreveu: PMdF> Pessoal, em particular vejam o que diz o atual governador da Florida PMdF> (republicano) : PMdF> You should, when you go vote, be able to have a record of it, thats PMdF> all were proposing today. Its not very complicated; it is in fact PMdF> common sense. Most importantly, it is the right thing to do. PMdF> Mais óbvio do que isso, impossível. Porque essa nossa imprensa marrom PMdF> não reproduz essa notícia e essa frase, essa nossa imprensa marrom tão PMdF> habituada a noticiar tudo o que sai nos jornais americanos? Essa nossa PMdF> imprensa certamente é um WC com filtro... PMdF> Paulo. PMdF> Amilcar Brunazo Filho a écrit : >> Olá, >> >> A confusão na apuração dos votos na Flórida em 2000, foi o estopim >> para a lei federal americana "Ajude a America votar" que estimulou a >> compra de máquinas de votar eletrônicas pelos Estados. >> >> Atualmente 35 estados americanos adotam máquinas de votar que emitem o >> voto impresso conferido pelo eleitor para viabilizar recontagens. >> >> Apenas 15 estados americanos ainda adotavam máquinas de votar que não >> usam a materialização do voto digital, do mesmo tipo das urnas-e >> brasileiras, entre eles a Flórida. >> >> Mas o governador da Flórida acaba de anunciar que vai abandonar todas >> as urnas-e sem voto impresso (similares às urnas-e brasileiras) e >> migrar para máquinas de votar com leitura óptica do voto (do tipo das >> nossas máquinas de loteria esportiva). >> >> O motivo alegado é que ficou comprovado que máquinas de voto puramente >> digital, como as brasileiras, sempre poderão ser fraudadas em larga >> escala e a comprovação da fraude pode ser muito difícil. >> >> Aqui no Brasil o TSE continua impedindo que sejam feitos testes de >> penetração para verificar a sua alegada invulnerabilidade. Veja em: >> http://www.votoseguro.org/textos/penetracao1.htm >> >> A notícia sobre a Flórida foi publicada no New York Timee e seu texto >> está abaixo. >> >> [ ]s >> Eng. Amilcar Brunazo Filho - Santos, SP >> >> === >> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/02/us/02voting.html?_r=1&oref=slogin >> >> February 2, 2007 >> >> >> *Florida Shifting to Voting System With Paper Trail * >> >> By ABBY GOODNOUGH >> <http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?ppds=bylL&v1=ABBY%20GOODNOUGH&fdq=19960101&td=sysdate&sort=newest&ac=ABBY%20GOODNOUGH&inline=nyt-per> >> >> >> and CHRISTOPHER DREW >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/d/christopher_drew/index.html?inline=nyt-per> >> >> >> >> DELRAY BEACH, Fla., Feb. 1 Gov. Charlie Crist announced plans on >> Thursday to abandon the touch-screen voting machines that many of >> Florida >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/national/usstatesterritoriesandpossessions/florida/index.html?inline=nyt-geo>?s >> >> >> counties installed after the disputed 2000 presidential election. The >> state will instead adopt a system of casting paper ballots counted by >> scanning machines in time for the 2008 presidential election. >> >> Voting experts said Florida?s move, coupled with new federal voting >> legislation expected to pass this year, could be the death knell for the >> paperless electronic touch-screen machines. If as expected the Florida >> Legislature approves the $32.5 million cost of the change, it would be >> the nation?s biggest repudiation yet of touch-screen voting, which was >> widely embraced after the 2000 recount as a state-of-the-art means of >> restoring confidence that every vote would count. >> >> Several counties around the country, including Cuyahoga in Ohio and >> Sarasota in Florida, are moving toward exchanging touch-screen machines >> for ones that provide a paper trail. But Florida could become the first >> state that invested heavily in the recent rush to touch screens to >> reject them so sweepingly. >> >> ?Florida is like a synonym for election problems; it?s the Bermuda >> Triangle of elections,? said Warren Stewart, policy director of >> VoteTrust USA, a nonprofit group that says optical scanners are more >> reliable than touch screens. ?For Florida to be clearly contemplating >> moving away from touch screens to the greatest extent possible is >> truly significant.? >> >> Other states that rushed to buy the touch-screen machines are also >> abandoning them. Earlier this week, the Virginia Senate passed a bill >> that would phase out the machines as they wore out, and replace them >> with optical scanners. The Maryland legislature also seems determined to >> order a switch from the paperless touch screens, though it is not clear >> yet if it will require the use of optical scanners or just allow paper >> printers to be added to the touch screens. >> >> On Monday, Representative Rush D. Holt, Democrat of New Jersey, plans to >> introduce a bill in Congress that would require all voting machines >> nationwide to produce paper records through which voters can verify that >> their ballots were recorded correctly. A majority of House members have >> endorsed the proposal, and the changes have strong support among Senate >> Democrats. Mr. Holt?s bill would also substantially toughen the >> requirements for the touch-screen machines that have printers, and >> experts say this could give even more impetus to the shift toward the >> optical scanning systems. >> >> Mr. Crist, a Republican >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/r/republican_party/index.html?inline=nyt-org>, >> >> >> at times drew whoops and applause when he announced his plan at the >> South County Civic Center in Palm Beach County, the epicenter of the >> 2000 election standoff and home of the infamous ?butterfly ballot? that >> confused many voters. The touch screens had replaced the punch-card >> systems that caused widespread problems that year. >> >> ?You should, when you go vote, be able to have a record of it,? Mr. >> Crist told a few hundred mostly older citizens at the civic center, in >> Delray Beach, where many residents said they accidentally voted for >> Patrick J. Buchanan >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/patrick_j_buchanan/index.html?inline=nyt-per> >> >> >> in 2000 instead of Al Gore >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/al_gore/index.html?inline=nyt-per> >> >> >> because of the confusing ballot design. ?That?s all we?re proposing >> today. It?s not very complicated; it is in fact common sense. Most >> importantly, it is the right thing to do.? >> >> Mr. Crist?s renunciation of touch-screen voting one month after he >> replaced Jeb Bush >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/jeb_bush/index.html?inline=nyt-per> >> >> >> as governor of the nation?s fourth-most-populous state, suggested that >> the fight for paper voting records, long a pet project of Democrats, >> might become more bipartisan. Mr. Crist made the announcement with >> Representative Robert Wexler, a Democrat from Delray Beach who has >> ardently led the movement for a paper trail and has attacked Republicans >> along the way. >> >> ?I support this plan 100 percent,? Mr. Wexler said before introducing >> Mr. Crist. ?This governor means what he says, and he?s coming to >> Tallahassee and he?s spreading the message throughout Florida that >> this isn?t about Republican or Democrat, it?s not about this ideology or >> that; it?s about unifying people and doing what?s right for the people >> of Florida.? >> >> The 15 Florida counties that have adopted touch-screen voting in recent >> years, including Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach and Hillsborough, would >> move to optical-scan voting under the proposal before the presidential >> election of 2008. The plan would give them the option, however, of using >> touch-screen machines during the state?s two-week early voting period >> that precedes Election Day, if the machines are modified to provide a >> paper trail. Those counties represent 54 percent of the state?s >> registered voters. Broward County alone has bought about 6,000 >> touch-screen machines in recent years, and Palm Beach County has about >> 4,500. >> >> Mr. Crist said county election supervisors would explore how to make >> optical-scan voting easier for blind people and for those who speak >> foreign languages. In some cases, they have been able to vote without >> assistance on the touch-screen machines. >> >> Asked how he felt about discarding tens of millions of dollars worth of >> touch-screen machines just years after they were acquired, Mr. Crist >> said, ?The price of freedom is not cheap. The importance of a democratic >> system of voting that we can trust, that we can have confidence in, is >> incredibly important.? >> >> Election experts estimate that paperless electronic machines were used >> by about 30 percent of voters nationwide in 2006. But their reliability >> has increasingly come under scrutiny, as has the difficulty of doing >> recounts without a paper trail. Federal technology experts concluded >> late last year that paperless touch-screen machines could not be secured >> from tampering. >> >> Some states had bought early versions of the paperless machines before >> the 2000 recount, and one of them, New Mexico, switched last year to >> optical scanners. But most of the machines in other states were >> purchased with federal money provided under a 2002 law that required >> states to upgrade from old punch-card and lever systems. >> >> New York is planning to buy either screens with printers or optical >> scanners, New Jersey is adding paper trails to its touch screens and >> Connecticut is buying the optical scanners. A recent survey by Election >> Data Services, a Washington consulting firm, estimated that 36 percent >> of the nation?s counties have bought electronic machines, including some >> with printers attached, while 56 percent have the optical scan systems. >> >> Mr. Holt said his bill would require the return to paper ballots by >> next year?s presidential primaries, and it would authorize $300 million >> in federal money to upgrade the machines. Some state and county election >> officials say it could be difficult to make such sweeping changes by >> then. >> >> But, Mr. Holt said, ?it depends on how badly we want to do it. The >> public is getting very impatient here.? >> >> In Sarasota County last November, more than 18,000 voters who used >> touch-screen machines did not have their votes recorded in the close >> Congressional race between Vern Buchanan, the Republican, and Christine >> Jennings, the Democrat. Mr. Buchanan took office last month after a >> recount gave him a 369-vote victory, but Ms. Jennings has sued. >> >> Former Governor Bush, President Bush?s younger brother, generally >> defended touch-screen voting during his tenure and said skeptics had >> fallen prey to ?conspiracy theories.? But leading up to the 2004 >> presidential election, the Republican Party of Florida sent out fliers >> urging voters to use absentee ballots because of the absence of a paper >> trail. >> >> Experts say the optical scanners are less expensive than the >> touch-screen systems. But Kimball W. Brace, the president of Election >> Data Services, said optical scanning systems had had a slightly higher >> rate of voter error than touch screens. >> >> Abby Goodnough reported from Delray Beach, Fla., and Christopher Drew >> from New York. >> __._,_.___ >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> O texto acima e' de inteira e exclusiva responsabilidade de seu >> autor, conforme identificado no campo "remetente", e nao >> representa necessariamente o ponto de vista do Forum do Voto-E >> >> O Forum do Voto-E visa debater a confibilidade dos sistemas >> eleitorais informatizados, em especial o brasileiro, e dos >> sistemas de assinatura digital e infraestrutura de chaves publicas. >> __________________________________________________ >> Pagina, Jornal e Forum do Voto Eletronico >> http://www.votoseguro.org >> __________________________________________________ -- Grande abraço, Roger Chadel -------- //// O TSE deve voltar a ser um tribunal |---//---| | / | Se a urna não imprimir, seu voto pode sumir! |--------| www.votoseguro.org -------- Extraido de minha coleção de taglines: Realidade é uma ilusão que ocorre devido à falta de álcool /"\ \ / Campanha da fita ASCII - contra mail html X ASCII ribbon campaign - against html mail / \ ______________________________________________________________ O texto acima e' de inteira e exclusiva responsabilidade de seu autor, conforme identificado no campo "remetente", e nao representa necessariamente o ponto de vista do Forum do Voto-E O Forum do Voto-E visa debater a confibilidade dos sistemas eleitorais informatizados, em especial o brasileiro, e dos sistemas de assinatura digital e infraestrutura de chaves publicas. __________________________________________________ Pagina, Jornal e Forum do Voto Eletronico http://www.votoseguro.org __________________________________________________
