Interessante é que eu estava há muito tempo preocupado com a possibilidade de convencerem o goverrno venezuelano a usar urnas eletrônicas.
Se usar, Chávez já foi derrotado. Foi assim que conseguiram consolidar o golpe branco do Paraguai. Não há como esse fórum alertar os governistas da Venezuela do perigo da Urna Eletrônica? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amilcar Brunazo Filho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Michael Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sergio Luis dos Santos Lima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Marcelo Soares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 5:43 AM Subject: [VotoEletronico] Fwd: e agora, Venezuela > Olá, > > Vejam abaixo a notícia que saiu no NYTimes de 11/06 em: > >http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/11/international/americas/11vene.html > sobre o uso das urnas-e no plebiscito para confirmação do presidente Chavez > da Venezuela. > O Governo resolveu usar urnas-e sem voto impresso e com software fechado > (no mesmo estilo das brasileiras). A oposição está reclamando. > > Mas o que mais me chamou a atenção é o fato da OEA estar sendo sugerida > pela oposição para monitorar as urnas-e. E os governistas repelem a oferta! > > A OEA tem sido responsável direta por levar a urna-e brasileira (sem voto > conferido pelo eleitor e com parte do software fechado) para os demais > países latino-americanos. > > Tem um "cheiro de incoerência" nesta história. > > Obs: no mesmo dia saiu uma outra reportagem no NYTimes sobre o falso dilema > usabilidadeXsegurança das urnas-e. Como tenho trocado algumas mensagens com > gente dos time dos "ergonômicos", vou comentar sobre isto daqui uns dias, > quando voltar de viagem à Brasília. Esta outra reportagem está em: > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/11/opinion/11FRI1.html?th > > Abraços, > > Amilcar > -------------------------------------------------- > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/11/international/americas/11vene.html > >June 11, 2004 > > > >Venezuelan Recall Is in Dispute Even Before the Vote > > > >By JUAN FORERO and JOHN SCHWARTZ > > > >CARACAS, Venezuela, June 10 - Touch-screen voting machines, which have > >been plagued by security and reliability concerns in the United States, > >will be used in the recall vote on President Hugo Chávez, prompting his > >foes and foreign diplomats to contend that the left-leaning government may > >use the equipment to manipulate the vote. > > > >A new touch-screen system here, bought earlier this year by Mr. Chávez's > >government, uses voting machines made by the Smartmatic Corporation of > >Boca Raton, Fla., and software produced by a related company, the Bizta > >Corporation, also of Florida. Neither company has experience in an actual > >election. > > > >Furthermore, the Venezuelan government's electoral council said it would > >not permit observers to run a simultaneous audit of the electronic vote > >counting during the Aug. 15 recall, as electoral experts in the United > >States said is common practice. > > > >"What is the dark reason for not doing this?" said Enrique Mendoza, an > >opposition leader. "This is strange and not very transparent." > > > >In the United States, the touch-screen machines that have appeared in > >numerous states in recent years have had some technical glitches, and have > >been reviewed by security experts who found them lacking in safeguards > >against hackers. That has led critics to argue the systems are less secure > >than the mechanical ones they replaced. > > > >In April, California banned the use of 14,000 of the machines for this > >November's presidential elections, while the state of Ohio issued a report > >that said electronic voting machines from the four biggest companies in > >the field have serious security flaws. > > > >Earlier this week, the head of the United States Election Assistance > >Commission said that voting machine companies should make the inner > >workings of their software open to inspection by states that purchase it. > > > >One solution, electoral and computer experts say, is the use of manual > >audits of the receipts the machines produce for every vote cast. > > > >"That is the most normal thing in an electoral process, and that they > >would deny it is absurd," said a diplomat in Caracas who has closely > >monitored elections here and in other Latin countries. "What serious > >electoral board would not permit an observation, as is done everywhere?" > > > >That is what the opposition has asked for here after the National > >Electoral Council, the government's five-member electoral governing board, > >ruled on June 3 that Mr. Chávez's adversaries had collected enough > >signatures to hold a referendum. The council this week said the recall, > >which would succeed if the opposition collects nearly 3.8 million votes, > >would take place Aug. 15. > > > >Mr. Chávez's opponents have suggested that an independent observer like > >the Organization of American States or the Atlanta-based Carter Center, > >audit the signatures. > > > >But the electoral council has opposed an audit, saying that as an > >autonomous body it would tally the votes and ensure there is no fraud. > >Some pro-Chávez members of the council, in fact, have suggested that the > >O.A.S. does not need to monitor the election, or that its role should be > >restricted. > > > >Opposition leaders contend that three of the electoral council's five > >members are partisan to the president, an opinion echoed by diplomats in > >Caracas. > > > >Leaders of the Democratic Coordinator, an umbrella group of opposition > >groups, had initially pushed for a manual count. But now the opposition > >says it simply wants to carry out an audit of a sampling of the votes, > >perhaps on as few as 400 of the 12,000 machines that are to be used. > > > >"We are not asking that they do an electoral count on all the receipts," > >said Jesús Torrealba, an opposition leader. "What we're asking for is a > >statistical sampling." > > > >The government has raised a host of questions since announcing earlier > >this year that it was replacing voting machines made by a Spanish firm, > >Indra, with Smartmatic's equipment. The Miami Herald reported in May that > >the Venezuelan government had invested in Bizta, a new company that makes > >the software to be used in the machines. > > > >Efforts to obtain comment from the National Electoral Council and the > >Venezuelan Embassy in Washington were unsuccessful. Officials for > >Smartmatic and Bizta referred calls to a spokeswoman, who did not return > >two phone calls. > > > >Government officials have publicly said, however, there is no impropriety > >and played down the role of the government in Bizta's operations. Jorge > >Rodríguez, a council member who is considered a Chávez loyalist, accused > >critics of having "hidden interests." > > > >But experts said that without independent oversight, voting machines can > >be easily tampered with. > > > >Touch-screen voting machines bear similarities, but each company designs > >its machine in its own way, and the software varies widely from company to > >company. Still, experts note that a review for the state of Ohio of > >hardware and software used by the four largest vendors of touch-screen > >voting machines found serious security flaws. > > > >"A fully electronic computer can be programmed to produce whatever outcome > >the developers - or the people in charge of the developers - want it to," > >said Aviel D. Rubin, a professor of computer science at Johns Hopkins > >University. > > > >Mr. Rubin led a team last year that performed the first rigorous security > >analysis of software used in machines by Diebold Election Systems, an > >industry leader in the United States. "Anybody who was really concerned > >with a fair outcome would encourage as far an outside review of the > >machines as possible," he said. > > > >Glitches and tampering with voting machines has been seen before in Latin > >America, where there is a long history of stolen elections. > > > >The government of then-President Alberto K. Fujimori stole the 2000 > >Peruvian presidential election. Days before, the O.A.S. examined the > >software used in the machines and found technical problems that would > >permit manipulation. > > > >The Fujimori government, though, refused to make corrections, and the > >O.A.S. abandoned the country before the election. The government was later > >accused of fraud in the election. Mr. Fujimori resigned soon after. > > > >Mr. Rubin said it is crucial to ensure that the companies chosen to supply > >machines and software be experienced and have a proven track record, > >particularly in an election as important as Venezuela's. > > > >Juan Forero reported from Caracas for this article, and John Schwartz from > >New York. > > > ><http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/help/copyright.html>Copyright > >2004 <http://www.nytco.com/>The New York Times Company > > ______________________________________________________________ > O texto acima e' de inteira e exclusiva responsabilidade de seu > autor, conforme identificado no campo "remetente", e nao > representa necessariamente o ponto de vista do Forum do Voto-E > > O Forum do Voto-E visa debater a confibilidade dos sistemas > eleitorais informatizados, em especial o brasileiro, e dos > sistemas de assinatura digital e infraestrutura de chaves publicas. > __________________________________________________ > Pagina, Jornal e Forum do Voto Eletronico > http://www.votoseguro.org > __________________________________________________ > > Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra. > Scan engine: VirusScan / Atualizado em 09/06/2004 / Versão: 1.5.2 > Proteja o seu e-mail Terra: http://www.emailprotegido.terra.com.br/ > ______________________________________________________________ O texto acima e' de inteira e exclusiva responsabilidade de seu autor, conforme identificado no campo "remetente", e nao representa necessariamente o ponto de vista do Forum do Voto-E O Forum do Voto-E visa debater a confibilidade dos sistemas eleitorais informatizados, em especial o brasileiro, e dos sistemas de assinatura digital e infraestrutura de chaves publicas. __________________________________________________ Pagina, Jornal e Forum do Voto Eletronico http://www.votoseguro.org __________________________________________________
