We are developing some RF and Bluetooth sensoring system too and a good (not 
great) video output would be an optional to give the user the right feedback.
 
The low power consumption is really important to us: we are developing a 
rechargable-battery+photovoltaic recharge system to make our boxes able to be 
power-chord independant.
 
....but i think we are quite off-topic now :-)
 
________________________________

Da: mgrollman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: giovedì 22 maggio 2008 18.00
A: Dario Finardi
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kim-man 'Punky' TSE
Oggetto: Re: R: Alix1/3 VGA support (lxfb) vs. Intel Atom D945GCLF


Dario,

I also am big fan of  PCEngines and Alix, and use this board for some of our 
mobile sensor projects.  But it has trouble keeping up with certain video 
efforts -- just not enough gas in the tank, sometimes.

Atom CPU at 1.6GHz will draw around 2.2watt, still very lean and mean.

I agree that mini-pci slot is lacking in D945GCLF, but I would expect to see 
boards out there with mini-PCI soon using ATOM.  Also, the Alix has a better 
power setup than this Intel board does.

 But, the combination of this very low power ATOM chip, super low price, and a 
native Intel chip set, it is very sexy, especially in video world.

- Michael

Dario Finardi wrote: 

        Thankyou Michael,
                we are using Geode based board for some reasons:
        - small size
        - very low power consumption ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is <0.9watt and the 
board is <5watt) 
        - quite expandable (2 minipci slots + come gpio)
        - the producer of the board we've choosen (PCEngines) make a little 
modification based upon our request for a small order (100pcs).
        
        Thankyou again.
        
        dario
        
        -----Messaggio originale-----
        Da: mgrollman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Inviato: giovedì 22 maggio 2008 17.39
        A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Cc: Kim-man 'Punky' TSE; Dario Finardi
        Oggetto: Alix1/3 VGA support (lxfb) vs. Intel Atom D945GCLF
        
        
        
        We do a lot of video encode stuff with Voyage (not so much playback), 
so we try and track what is out there that works well and it low cost for 
hardware.  It would appear that the  Intel Atom D945GCLF is shipping now, at 
around $80 USD qty 1, with a 1.6GHz CPU and a much more potent grahaics engine 
GMA 950 than Alix, as well as much better RAM upgradeable, it would seem that 
it could handler a video playback application like what you describe below much 
better than Alix could (much as it saddens me to say it) even withg frame 
buffer, and that a it would not take much to get Voyage to run well on this 
platform, since it is based on venervcal Intel 82945G (ICH7).  This board, I 
think, will take over many many application  niches where Via and Geode are hot 
today. 
        
        Cheers,
        
        - Michael
        
        
        --------------------------------
        Kim-man 'Punky' TSE wrote:
          

                Hi,
                
                If you are using XFree86, I think you may need framebuffer 
driver.  
                With XOrg, it will have a native geodelx video driver.  My 
question 
                is, if XOrg on Etch does not support geode lx, will adding 
framebuffer 
                support help?
                
                Next 0.6 release will base on lenny, and will be available at 
around 
                summer time.
                
                Regards,
                Punky
                
                
                Dario Finardi wrote:
                    

                        Yes, you're correct.
                        
                        I'm investigating about the way to use such cheap and 
low power 
                        consumption boards (alix pcengines and soekris) to 
build embedded 
                        devices with the ability to drive display not charging 
the cpu with 
                        the heavy X11 infrastructure.
                        
                        About X11: I see the Geode support was introduced in 
X11 starting 
                        from Debian 4.0 Lenny and Sid.
                        Etch hasn't such a driver yet.
                        
                        Have you some roadmap timing to port Voyage from Etch 
to Lenny yet?
                        
                        NOTE: I tested X11 without any specific video driver. 
Geode is driven 
                        only as a plain VGA with really poor performances and 
supporting few 
                        resolutions/color depth.
                        
                        Regards,
                        dario
                        -----Messaggio originale-----
                        Da: Kim-man 'Punky' TSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: 
                        mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 3.37
                        A: Dario Finardi
                        Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        Oggetto: Re: [Voyage-linux] Alix1/3 VGA support (lxfb)
                        
                        Hi
                        
                        I am not convinced why a geode lx driver is needed.  As 
far as I read 
                        from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Hardware_Drivers and 
kernel 
                        documentation, framebuffer is for provide graphical 
support on kernel 
                        console.  Correct me if i am wrong.  Any other strong 
reason than that?
                        Regards,
                        Punky
                        
                        
                        Dario Finardi wrote:
                         
                              

                                I was looking for the lxfb module to have 
optimized support of the 
                                Geode framebuffer.
                                I made an hand-check, then installed 
module-assistant too.
                                I see the lxfb module ins't available in the 
Voyage mainstream 
                                distribution.
                                
                                Someone with a solution?
                                
                                
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