Can someone tell this freak to leave me alone... Sorry but I'm not gonna 
take some geek from outta nowhere emailing me this crap.

-----Original Message-----
From:   O'Leary, Keith P [SMTP:Keith.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, June 12, 2000 1:41 PM
To:     '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:        RE: Deer Creek Fish (Regards to the Stilly)

Angela
Find another list to vent your frustrations.  I don't know either of you, 
but you are coming off very poorly and Gades is looking better each time 
you flame him.  After reading your e-mail, I want to CATCH AND EAT 
everything at Deer Creek just to spite you.

> ----------
> From: Angela Sienkiewich[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 6/12/00 11:47
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:      RE: Deer Creek Fish (Regards to the Stilly)
>
> Sure Tony...
>
> Here's another little tidbit for you.
> You're an egotistical little granola eating geek.
>
> Most people that fly fish catch fish but we don't let it go to our heads 
and have to bragggggg about it.
>
> But I guess some people just do.
>
> Fragile Ego there Tony?
>
> Tony why don't you go fish on a red?  You'll get one that way for sure. 
 By the looks of some of your dark steelhead you probably were....
>
> Hee Hee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Gades [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 11:37 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      FW: Deer Creek Fish (Regards to the Stilly)
>
>
> Share your comments with the group as I did - not directly with me.
>
>    -tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angela Sienkiewich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 11:03
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:      RE: Deer Creek Fish (Regards to the Stilly)
>
>
> Touchy Touchy aren't we...
> You stated that you fished the tail in front of Deer Creek, that sir will
> send someone to the there and most people don't know the history of Deer
> Creek, especially if they don't even know any spots to fish on the Sti  
lly.
>  You said tail out, (you're mistake) you don't think someone is going to 
go
> there?
>
> It wasn't a rude email, but I don't care how experienced you are, there 
is
> still a chance of hurting one of these fish no matter what when you catch
> them with any type of gear. Ever seen a small steelhead hooked in the eye
> by a large spey hook?
>
> Most of the people on this list seem to only talk about Rattlesnake Lake
> and floatation devices.... Yawn....  If they were so experienced I think
> I'd be getting my butt up to Canada for some nice beautiful "Real" giant
> trouts.  I personally know a lot of the gentlemen on this list, ran into
> them, took their pictures with steelhead, had them take pictures of me.
>
> There are certain steelhead no one should bother.  Deer Creek are one of
> em.
>
> So the Picnic Table is a zoo eh?   Always fished it alone.  Try it
> sometime. Or do you stand in line with all the others off the side of the
> road below Boulder Creek?
>
> >From what I've seen of everyone and their brother getting into fly 
fishing,
> is a bunch of fish getting hurt, exhausted, and held out of the water too
> long getting their pictures taken.
>
> So if you don't fall into that category good for you.  The lecture wasn't
> meant for you but all the inexperience idiots out there with a fly rod
> trying to be Brad Pitt.
>
> Angela
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Gades [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 10:44 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: Deer Creek Fish (Regards to the Stilly)
>
>
> I appreciate your concern but have no use for your lecture.  I take
> personal
> offense at your incredibly rude email.  You have no idea of what kind of
> fisher I am (or anyone on this list is) or my experience.  If you want to
> get even the faintest idea of this have a look at:
> http://faculty.washington.edu/tgades/
>
> I've been fishing the Stilly for a long time and am well-aware of the 
deer
> creek fish, their history and their current status.  I don't need to be
> told
> by someone to go fish that zoo-of-a-fishery around Fortson.  If you knew
> anything of the river and were even slightly considerate you'd suggest
> fishing above mud slide at mermaid - as I did in my email response to 
the>
> query about the fishing conditions on the stilly.
>
> Further, given the number of beautiful wild steelhead I caught and 
released
> last year alone, I resent the accusation that I do not know how to do so.
>  I
> would state with some certainty that I know more, have more experience 
and
> do a better job at this than the overwhelming majority of fishers.
>
> My running one of my newly tied foam-bodied waking flies through the
> tailout
> below deer creek did not and would not harm anything.
>
> -tony
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angela Sienkiewich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 10:23
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:      Deer Creek Fish (Regards to the Stilly)
>
>
> Please leave the Deer Creek Steelhead alone.
> Since a mud slide nearly wiped them out, and someone correct me if I'm
> wrong, only 500 return now a year from 50,  instead of the healthy run of
> 5,000 back in the 60s, it is not a good thing to be targeting them.  They
> are a very aggressive little summer run that use to have the reputation 
of
> being one of the fiestiest fish to catch on a dry fly but since their
> numbers have been decimated to near extinction, due to bad logging
> practices (Surprise Surprise).  Fishing by the mouth of Deer Creek is not 
a
> good thing.   This only applies to their return months of June & July.
>
> Please consult your Steelhead Book about the history of Deer Creek.
>
> They are very fragile and anyone accidentally tiring them out and
> exhausting them to death is doing a bad bad thing.  Their numbers can't
> take a bad C&R.
>
> The Deer Creek fish thank you.
>
> Go fish below Fortson.
>
>

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