I have to agree Mike, the first incarnation was junk. So much so that 
I passed on buying one myself. But the one I looked at last night 
really did look and feel superior to the Okuma in all respects. The 
Supreme isn't the same as I remember from when they first came on the 
market. Spool release was nicer too on the Supreme. The only thing 
better was the handle on the Okuma with it's imitation wood grain as 
opposed to the plastic on the Supreme. I can't say what it would do 
under use but just looking at them on the counter top, spinning the 
spools and playing with drag I liked the Supreme hands down.

Tim

>In my opinion the Plueger Supreme cannot compete with the Okuma Sierra.  The
>Okuma is a much better reel for less money.  Now I will admit that this
>opinion is based off of the first incarnation of the Pflueger Supreme.



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