I remember 'em. Very slippery rubber. Funky suspenders. Sweaty and leaky.

Gary Meyers
Kirkland

> Does anyone remember Seal Dri's? Those were the days. They were one of the
> first pair of stockingfoot waders on the market in the 1970's. I bought my
> first pair while I was in school at the UW, from Tom Darling at the Avid
> Angler fly shop.
> 
> They were made of latex rubber and the performance was awesome - awesomely
> horrible that is. They were very easy to puncture and leaked frequently. On
> an even modestly warm day, you would be profusely soaked with sweat, and in
> the winter you may as well have been wading wet. If you didn't store them
> carefully the rubber would dry out and crumble. They were also the cutting
> edge wader of the day, and were my most prized possesion as a college
> student, along with my Hardy reel. We sure have it good today!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Towell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Waders
> 
> 
> I will throw my hat in the ring for the Dan Baileys (I have the base models,
> not the guide series.) Not the cheapest, but not $350 either. Extremely
> comfortable (especially compared to the 3 and 4 layer stand up by themselves
> simms product.) My original pair is about 3 years old and see's 50+ days a
> year. The complaint so far is that the knee's are starting to wear on the
> insides (from rubbing while float tubing and hiking knock kneed I would
> guess) and the tape on the feet seams is starting to let go. I have used the
> thinned aquaseal to reinforce the knee rub spots, but I think that the tape
> giving out in the feet will put me in the market for a replacement pair in
> the next several months.
> 
> For all of you wet waders out there - breathables can be a great thing when
> the ticks, mosquitoes, and no-see em's are out, when the poison oak and
> nettles are thriving, and for when you are just crashing through the
> brambles (I do not know yet how they will fair against rattle snake
> fangs...) I have worn mine in MT and ID when the temp has been pushing 95.
> While you still sweat, it has certainly cut's down on the scars on the legs.
> I tend to still where the neoprenes in the dead of winter, mostly because of
> the extra floatation they provide (its a lot easier to fall off a raft than
> out of a drift boat...)
> 
> Tight Lines,
> 
> Andy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "PATRICK PETERSEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "waflyfishers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:18 AM
> Subject: RE: Waders
> 
> 
>> Breathables are the way to go. When layered proprerly I never get cold not
>> even in January. My first breathables were a brand named Tail Water that
>> went out of business as soon as I bought them. I could understand why,
> they
>> leaked with in a month of use(about ten times of use). Now I have a pair
> of
>> Dan Bailys guide waders and they have been leak proof thus far and I have
>> fished at least 75 full days in them this year. In both hot desert weather
>> and cold winter river water they are comfortable and dry. I just learned
>> about a cleaning solution that should be applied periodically to kep the
>> pores from clogging with grime. It helps maintain the breathability after
>> several uses. Because of my bad memory I cant remember the name of the
>> product but it is available at fly shops like Teds in Lynnwood. The best
>> advantage to breathables verses neoprene is the fact they dry much faster
>> and are easier to get off and on when wet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Kent Lufkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: 11/15/2001 10:22:45 AM
>>> Subject: Waders
>>> 
>>> There've been several posts the past week or so regarding equipment.
>>> Since we've already beat the subject of inexpensive reels nearly to
>>> death, I thought a conversation on a less popular subject might be
>>> interesting, namely waders. To start the ball rolling, here's my 3 or
>>> 4� worth:
>>> 
>>> I've had three pairs of breathable waders. My first pair (two pair,
>>> actually) were Orvis Clearweaters that leaked like a sieve from day
>>> one from dozens of tiny pinholes in the fabric. I'd bought 'em on
>>> sale at an Orvis store in Boise and ended up returning 'em a couple
>>> outings later for another set at the Bellevue store. (BTW, they're
>>> not the cheapest line you can find, but Orvis' service is first
>>> rate.) Unfortunately, the second set also leaked, so I tested their
>>> service once again, this time requesting, and getting a full refund.
>>> 
>>> Deciding to try something different (and not wanting to take out a
>>> home equity loan to buy a pair of Simms ;-), I tried a pair of
>>> Canadian-made Ronnys from Swede's in Woodinville. I'm finishing my
>>> third season with them and they've been excellent. I virtually lived
>>> in 'em for a week in Alaska.
>>> 
>>> I've got smallish feet and the Ronny's neoprene feet fit mine much
>>> better than the swim-fin sized feet in the Orvis and Hodgman models.
>>> However, that means that they're a little bit tougher to get off
>>> without putting too much stress on the seams. Once or twice a season,
>>> the Ronnys develop pinhole leaks along the seams in the feet. A drop
>>> or two of Aqua Seal easily takes care of the problem.
>>> 
>>> In the summer, I get clammy and damp above the waterline, even in the
>>> breathable Ronnys. So I found a pair of Hodgman waist-high 'guide
>>> pants' waders at Gart in Bellevue on sale for $69, (or with a 'free'
>>> pair of $39 Hodgman 300-wt Polartec fleece pants for $89. I got the
>>> fleece pants for the extra $20.) I use them with my pontoon boat
>>> since I'm only in the water from the knees down.
>>> 
>>> It's easy to forget that I'm not wearing my chest-high Ronnys though.
>>> This fall on a float trip down the N Fork of the Stilly with Sean
>>> Ranson, I waded in right up past my waist before remembering I was
>>> wearing the guide pants. I've only had the Hodgmans this year and
>>> have worn 'em less than a dozen times. Aside from the monster feet,
>>> they've performed just as well as the Ronny's.
>>> 
>>> Finally, I've got an older pair of Hodgman 3.5mm neoprenes for cold
>>> water wear. Like the guide pants, they've got monster feet but
>>> they've been tough and durable. But after a day in them, I climb out
>>> feeling like I've been in a sauna with my clothes on.
>>> 
>>> My personal thermostat seems to be set lower than most, so sweat
>>> condensation is an issue for me, even wearing breathables. After
>>> trying several combinations of layers, I've settled on a pair of
>>> polypropylene socks to wick away moisture, followed by a pair of
>>> Smartwool socks, and maybe another pair of fleece socks or neoprene
>>> booties if it's really cold. (With the big feet in the Hodgmans,
>>> there's plenty of room for several pairs of socks ;-) I've even tried
>>> those crack-n-stick foot warmers from REI. They didn't seem to work
>>> very well.
>>> 
>>> I've ended up wearing light polypropylene long johns under the waders
>>> in the summer, and a second layer of 100-wt or 300-wt fleece pants
>>> when it gets colder.
>>> 
>>> When it's really cold, I wear all the above but switch from the
>>> breathables to the neoprene waders.
>>> 
>>> Wonder what's worked for other subscribers?
>>> 
>>> Kent Lufkin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- PATRICK PETERSEN
>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> 
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