Yes, the term ‘flymph’ was
introduced by Pete Hidy in his coda to Jim Leisenring’s “The Art of
Tying the Wet Fly” titled “Fishing the Flymph”
I use primarily two flymph patterns: one
for March Browns (soon, my friends, soon) and one for BWOs.
You can fish them any number of ways: on
the swing, like a traditional wet fly, or a modified swing, like a soft hackle;
deeply sunk, like a nymph, or (fittingly) with the Leisenring lift; or as a
damp fly in the surface film.
Stu
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Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004
7:55 AM
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Subject: Re: Wet flies (was new
hook)
Roger's not the only one
who noticed Jim's use of the term 'flymphs' in his earlier post. Dave Hughes
refers to them as 'wingless wets' in his monumental book 'Trout Flies - The
Tier's Reference' and attributes the name to the late Pete Hidy who described them
as an emerging stage of many insect forms ". . . when they're not yet
flies but no longer nymphs."
What patterns work best in these parts? How are they fished?
Kent Lufkin
On Jan 31, 2004, at 7:29 AM, ffishnfly chatterton wrote:
Ok,
I am going to have to plead ignorance here and ask the question as to what is a
"flymph". It sounds like something which might be uttered
by a politician. By the way, I fish any fly whatever way it catches
fish, regardless of how that fly is classified.
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January 30, 2004 2:10 PM
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Wet flies (was new hook)
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I don't think it's a east coast
thing.
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you include nymphs, I think wet flies probably account
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the vast majority of fish caught in the west. Of course
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depends a lot on the water. I have never done any good
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the surface on Silver Creek. But on the Deschutes
(OR)
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streamers, soft hackles and flymphs produce day in and
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out. If you only fished drys, you would have lots of bad
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I love to swing a soft hackle or a
flymph with a down and
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cast or even a dead drift in a current seam. When it's
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I probably enjoy it as much as dry fly fishing.
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the March Brown hatch, I normally fish a pair of 14 flymphs
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into the hatch. The adults really have to be coming off
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bunches and the fish have to go crazy before I shift to a
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fly. I feel I catch bigger fish that way.
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Over the years I have drifted away
from the traditional soft
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I usually fish much smaller (16's and 18's or smaller)
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I am fishing a specific hatch...like March Browns. That's
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because I fish a lot of water where the BWO's are important.
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have also gone more toward the flymph. This year I am going to
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a point of fishing some of the traditional soft hackles.
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Great thread BTW. I've really
enjoyed it.
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Jim Jones
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Mark Steudel wrote:
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> Great story! Thanks for
sharing Leland.
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When I see trout posts on fly fishing boards, I don't hear very much
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about people catching trout on wet fly's. Streamers, nymphs, dry's ...
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When I'm reading books, a lot of the authors the write from the east
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coast talk a lot more about wet flies. Are swinging wet flies for trout
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more of a east coast thing than a west coast thing? Just curiuos.
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Mark
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On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 20:32, Leland Miyawaki wrote:
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was waiting my turn to go through the hole when I heard a voice
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me, "You're not going to fish that thing are you?" He was
/x-tad-bigger>/fontfamily>>>pointing
at my huge black Brooks stone dangling at the end of my big
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leader. "It seems to be what's working today," I answered. "Why
/x-tad-bigger>/fontfamily>>>don't
you try one of these," he said as he held out a handful of
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soft hackles.
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/x-tad-bigger>/fontfamily>>>"Wow!,
They look like some low water steelhead flies I've been tying."
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/x-tad-bigger>/fontfamily>>>"Pretty
much, they're called soft hackle flies. I just wrote a book
/x-tad-bigger>/fontfamily>>>on
them called, The Soft Hackle Fly, maybe you've seen it. My name is
/x-tad-bigger>/fontfamily>>>Syl
Nemes. They're much more elegant than those chuck 'n duck things."
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/x-tad-bigger>/fontfamily>>>He
told me to put on my floating line, quarter cast downstream, make
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small upstream mend, let it swing across under tension, with maybe
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little downstream mend at the end or even a Leisinring Lift, if you
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To me it was like grease-lining low water steelhead flies.
/x-tad-bigger>/fontfamily>>>Anyway,
on my second pass through the hole, I stuck a big brown just
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the fly straightened below me. Syl got a big laugh when the trout
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the chuck and ducker fishing below me.
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/x-tad-bigger>/fontfamily>>>Leland.
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