Jim,

Would you mind sending me (or the list) that number.

Thanks, Mark
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Speaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 12:49 AM
Subject: RE: The Cedar


> Good info.  Thanks David.
>
> I live verrrry close to the Cedar and have been looking forward to this.
> It's a perfect size of river to take my 12 y.o. wading on.  It's also the
> first place I caught a fish on a fly at - I think I was 7 years old.
>
> The thing that you said in your message that I'm most concerned with is
the
> fact that this season is experimental.  I hope very much that the river
gets
> respect from the fishers that are sure to pound it real soon.  I know all
of
> us on this list respect the places we fish and carry our trash out - in
this
> case I think it's going to be really important for us to compensate for
> those who don't act so responsibly.  In fact, before I fish on Tuesday and
> beyond on the Cedar, I will have the poaching hotline as well as local
> sheriff's office numbers pre-programmed in my cell.  It goes without
saying,
> but I'll say it anyway... we need to respect and protect this opportunity.
> :)
>
> -tight lines-
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Holmes
> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: The Cedar
>
>
> My boy and I stopped by the Cedar River tonight at the
> Maple Valley (at the bridges by the Testy Chef) to
> quietly scope out the place.  The place is crawling
> with .... other guys who have the same idea!  In the
> one hour we were there we saw four other guys clearly
> scoping out the river.  I have a feeling that Tuesday
> is going to be a ZOO.
>
> At this month's meeting of the newly resurrected South
> Lake Washington Chapter of Trout Unlimited, we had as
> the speaker, the distinguished activist and president
> of the South King County chapter, Frank Urabeck.
> Urabeck has been instrumental in many high-profile
> trout-related events such as:
>    * The Lake Washington Sockeye season a couple of
> years ago
>    * The removal of the three sealions at the locks
>    * The marking of all hatchery salmon in the state
>    * And now the 2004 trout season on the Cedar
>
> According to Urabeck, the Cedar was originally closed
> to protect the dwindling steelhead returns.  The
> closure, plus the removal of sealions at the Ballard
> locks, allowed the steelhead returns to become quite
> strong in recent years (up to 600 a couple of years
> ago).  However, this year only 20 have returned.  One
> operating theory for the dwindling is that the trout
> in the Cedar have gotten so big that they are eating
> or displacing the steelhead.  So the river is being
> opened to thin out some of these fish.
>
> Also, the Muckleshoot have been fishing in the river
> for a couple of years now so TU prodded the WDFW to
> open the river to the rest of us. TU wanted a
> catch-and-keep policy, but WDFW wouldn't go that far;
> WFDW assumes that 1 in 10 of the C&R fish will die
> from handling anyway.
>
> The 2004 trout season is definitely still an
> experiment. The WFDW has only agreed to seasons
> through 2005.
>
> Steve Foley, the WFDW biologist, thinks the 20" fish
> in the river ARE the steelhead who have simply become
> non-andromonus.  He will be our next guest speaker.
>
>
>
>
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