This all seems very complicated. If, like me, you're used to the user-friendly old Mac way, before we had to worry about things like unix, terminal & the like, check out some of the web-hosting that include a browser based control panel that makes uploading files, setting up email accounts, password-protecting directories etc simpler than setting up an OSX Mac :o)
I use hosting shop and chose a cPanel Junior account. <http://www.hostingshop.com.au/cpanel_junior.htm> It looks like it has gone up to $139 a year (I paid $125) and the traffic has been reduced to 2GB/month (4GB when I signed up a year & a half ago) but, as that includes my domain name registration charges, it still seems pretty reasonable to me. I am sure that there are other providers offering the same sort of interface. All site management is done by logging into the control panel which has icons for the following functions: Mail Webmail Change Password Parked Domains Addon Domains FTP Manager File Manager Disk usage Backup Password Protect Directories Error pages Subdomains MySQL Databases SSH/Shell Access Redirects Frontpage Extensions Web/FTP Stats Raw Access Logs Raw Log Manager Error log Subdomain Stats Search Engine Submit Chatroom PhpMyChat Bulletin Board CGI Center Scripts Library Agora Shopping Cart Cron jobs Network Tools MIME Types Apache Handlers Manage OpenPGP Keys HotLink Protection Index Manager IP Deny Manager I have only had cause to use a few of these so far but in terms of setting up my first website it has all been very easy. To upload files, for example, click on the "file manager", you see your sites top level folder structure, click on folders to navigate to your target folder (eg "www") and click the "upload files" button you can then browse your Mac's hard drive and select the files you want to upload - you can select up to 12 files at a time and a check box gives you the option to overwrite existing files of the same name - then press the "upload" button. That's it, all done from IE or safari, no FTP software required. A message confirms successful upload. You can also delete, rename, move and copy files & folders + change permissions all from the same window. There are also support forums which include tutorials on how to do certain things (set up email accounts, mySQL databases etc) but so far I've found it all pretty self explanatory. As you can probably tell, I've been very happy with it and it's all been a lot easier than I expected - not often I can say that about computers nowadays even using Macs :( I realise the above may not be too helpful if you're already locked into a hosting package which doesn't offer it - but if not check it out. Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Fax: +61 8 9841 6137 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: Ryan Schotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:58:55 +0800 > To: WAMUG Mailing List <wamug@wamug.org.au> > Subject: Re: Terminal FTP > >> Could someone please tell me how I can use the terminal for ftp >> uploading to a server for a web page? I don't really have a great deal >> of money to throw around at shareware products here and there and it's >> difficult to find a reliable freeware ftp client. > > I know. And even reliable Shareware ones seem hard to find... version 2 > of 'Anarchie' was the best I've ever used, still. Shame they don't sell > it anymore... 'Transmit' is very good, if a little unfinished around > some edges, but at US$25 is a bit expensive for casual (student) usage. > >> For what I want to do it would work well and I'm sure it would be very >> reliable. > > Assuming you're moderately comfortable with the terminal already, try > reading through this document: <http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/FTP.html> > Section 4.2 describes with the ftp client included with OS X, I _think_. > But they're all pretty much the same. > > With web sites, always remember to upload txt/html/php/php4 files as > ascii, and other stuff like movies and pictures as binary. Typing > 'ascii' or 'binary' at the ftp prompt sets this. Default is binary. > > Also, typing '?' at the ftp prompt will display a list of commands. > Typing '? <cmd>' will describe it briefly. > > 'man ftp' at a terminal prompt will show you more than you ever wanted > to know, and isn't friendly about it. A tutorial on the net will be > better, like that howto. > > You should also be aware that ftp is insecure - your password is > transmitted unencrypted. Not a great problem if just logging in to your > ISP, but for anything going across the Greater Internet there are > sometimes more secure means available like sftp. If there's not, > encourage it ;) > > Hope that helps, > > Ryan > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Unsubscribe - <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro