Good evening all,

If I am correct Microsoft is re-introducing support for Macros/VBA for its
Mac Office suite, and if that is correct for my usage the price quoted will
be worth me having the package, Entourage or not. The biggest disadvantage
with Office 2008 (Mac edition) was its lack of VBA and Macros. Anyone using
Excel extensively would have realised the enormous disadvantage of MS Office
2008 (Mac edition) which dropped support for VBA At least this has (??) been
reintroduced and I will be using Excel 2011 for sure. Must admit that I
would not use Word often, in fact most of my word processing can be done
using TextEdit.



For all the bad things one can say about Microsoft, I still do not know of
any software package that will match the ability of MS Office to open very,
very old documents. I can be proved wrong, but all my old documents except
MS Office's ones, are now unreadable. To illustrate, I have been reading
Word and Excel documents dating back to prior to 1996 complete with VBAs and
Macros without the slightest problem. By the way those documents were stored
on ... diskettes, yes those little floppies which the new generation of Mac
users would probably not even have seen.

In my view MS is not all that 'evil' and I must give them credit for their
continued progress specially with Excel, which in my personal opinion, has
no equal.

Kind regards,

Philippe C

2010/8/5 Daniel Kerr <[email protected]>

>
> Hi Neil
>
> I knew I'd seen it somewhere else earlier, and couldn't find the link,...
> That article you linked actually says only two versions, whereas the one I
> read lists three,..
> <
> http://www.macrumors.com/2010/08/02/microsoft-to-release-office-for-mac-201
> 1-in-late-october/>
>
> ---part quote---
> Editions and pricing include:
>
> - Microsoft Office for Mac Home and Student 2011: Includes Word,
> PowerPoint,
> Excel, and Messenger and is priced at $119 for a single install or $149 for
> a Family Pack allowing up to three installs in a single household.
>
> - Microsoft Office for Mac Home and Business 2011: Includes Word,
> PowerPoint, Excel, Outlook, and Messenger and is priced at $199 for a
> single
> install or $279 for a Multi-Pack that allows a user to install Office on
> two
> of their Macs.
>
> - Microsoft Office for Mac Academic 2011: Includes Word, PowerPoint, Excel,
> Outlook, and Messenger and is available for higher education students,
> staff, and faculty, with a single install priced at $99. This academic
> version may only be purchased from authorized academic stores or direct
> from
> Microsoft.
> ---end quote---
>
> All pricing is US$ of course.
> But it lists the cheapest version for students which does indeed have
> Outlook. Perhaps only because it's going to have "limited availability" the
> other article didn't list it.
>
> But yes, as in good Microsoft tradition,..lets make things confusing,..
> Customer:- "Hi, I'd like Microsoft Office Home Edition please"
> Salesperson - "Certainly,..here it is here"
> *Pay, go home and install, No Outlook. Go back"
> Customer:- "Oh,..where's my Outlook, it didn't install?"
> Salesperson - "Oh,...you didn't want Office Home Edition,..you wanted
> Office
> HOME Edition"
>
> :o)
>
> Obviously they think some "Home and Students" don't do email?
> Either that, or they're just saying,.you have a Mac,..use Mail.app.
>
> Kind Regards
> Daniel
>
>
> On 5/8/10 3:36 PM, "Neil Houghton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hmmm
> >
> > It's not all good though:
> >
> > - They have dropped Entourage from the home and student edition - if you
> > want/need an MS mail client you need the more expensive Home & business
> > edition (which includes Outlook)
> >
> > - BUT, I think the article is wrong regarding the installs numbers -
> whilst
> > the top price home and student edition does include 3 installs, the top
> > priced Home & business edition only covers 2 installs not 3.
> >
> > - MS have changed the installs enforcement - it used to be that this was
> > only done on a network connection basis - you could actually install the
> > software on as many of your computers as you wanted, it was only when 2
> or
> > more were connected to a network simultaneously that it checked that they
> > were using different licences and otherwise shut you down on a duplicated
> > licence. Now the have moved to an activation process - as used for
> Windows -
> > with all of the hasssle involved if you change computers and need to
> > re-activate the new computer/hardware set-up.
> >
> >
> > Bugger!
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Neil
>
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
>
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