Actually, I understand Outlook for Mac is more than just a re-badging although it still doesn't support native MAPI for connecting to Exchange, something that has been a feature of Outlook for PC forever:
"Outlook for Mac is coming to Office 2011, replacing Entourage. Outlook for Mac is a new application that leverages the Exchange Web Services protocol and is being built using Cocoa, allowing for improved integration with the Mac OS. Today we are also announcing that Outlook for Mac will import .PST files from Outlook for Windows — a top customer request. In addition, as announced last year, Outlook for Mac features a reliable, high-speed, file-based database with Spotlight search and back-up support from Time Machine." In terms of my experience with both existing versions of the programs, LookOut is better and worse than EnterRage and both suck in general. On a PC OutLook is known to corrupt PST files (all your email) and I've had Entourage corrupt innumerable mail databases and lose thousands of my calendar appointments and email messages as well as propagate the corruptions to all my other computers and iPhone thanks to Exchange. I am now using Outlook 2007 under Parallels and VMware for all my work email and calendaring and suffering with its foibles but at least it hasn't yet lost mail. Entourage's search features are a lot better than Outlook. Outlook has far better page layout features within email messages than Entourage (think text wrap around images, HTML linking to bookmarks within the one email message etc.) Entourage is very buggy with bullets and multiple indenting Outlook handles delegation and proxy email senders better than Entourage Outlook supports server-side rules if you use an Exchange server while Entourage doesn't. Outlook has a voting buttons feature that Entourage lacks Entourage supports drag and drop from other apps (Mac feature) Thankfully Outlook for Mac 2011 gets rid of the monolithic mail database file which would always have problems with Time Machine and Spotlight (not to mention those database corruptions i mention above) and instead uses individual files for mailboxes, messages etc. I'd switch to Apple Mail and iCal if we had Exchange 2007 here at Curtin, but we are still stuck at Exchange 2003 which Apple's software doesn't support which is very frustrating. We also use shared calendars a great deal so would hope Apple's integration with Exchange 2007+ is rock solid. Of course it remains to be seen whether Microsoft's implementation of Outlook on the Mac is any good or not - I'm not holding my breath having been disappointed and frustrated too many times in the past, but we can always hope... -Mart ------------------------------------ Martin Hill mailto:mart_h...@mac.com homepages: http://web.mac.com/mart_hill Mb: 0401-103-194 hm: (08)9314-5242 On 06/08/2010, at 1:39 PM, Lloyd White wrote: > > I have never used Outlook, only Entourage. Is it the same, better or worse? > > If I upgraded to 2011 could I still use Entourage from the 2008 version? > I.e. Can it be separated from the whole Office package? > > Lloyd > > > > >> >> Hi Neil >> >> I knew I'd seen it somewhere else earlier, and couldn't find the link,... >> That article you linked actually says only two versions, whereas the one I >> read lists three,.. >> <http://www.macrumors.com/2010/08/02/microsoft-to-release-office-for-mac-201 >> 1-in-late-october/> >> >> ---part quote--- >> Editions and pricing include: >> >> - Microsoft Office for Mac Home and Student 2011: Includes Word, PowerPoint, >> Excel, and Messenger and is priced at $119 for a single install or $149 for >> a Family Pack allowing up to three installs in a single household. >> >> - Microsoft Office for Mac Home and Business 2011: Includes Word, >> PowerPoint, Excel, Outlook, and Messenger and is priced at $199 for a single >> install or $279 for a Multi-Pack that allows a user to install Office on two >> of their Macs. >> >> - Microsoft Office for Mac Academic 2011: Includes Word, PowerPoint, Excel, >> Outlook, and Messenger and is available for higher education students, >> staff, and faculty, with a single install priced at $99. This academic >> version may only be purchased from authorized academic stores or direct from >> Microsoft. >> ---end quote--- >> >> All pricing is US$ of course. >> But it lists the cheapest version for students which does indeed have >> Outlook. Perhaps only because it's going to have "limited availability" the >> other article didn't list it. >> >> But yes, as in good Microsoft tradition,..lets make things confusing,.. >> Customer:- "Hi, I'd like Microsoft Office Home Edition please" >> Salesperson - "Certainly,..here it is here" >> *Pay, go home and install, No Outlook. Go back" >> Customer:- "Oh,..where's my Outlook, it didn't install?" >> Salesperson - "Oh,...you didn't want Office Home Edition,..you wanted Office >> HOME Edition" >> >> :o) >> >> Obviously they think some "Home and Students" don't do email? >> Either that, or they're just saying,.you have a Mac,..use Mail.app. >> >> Kind Regards >> Daniel > > > > > > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Unsubscribe - <mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Unsubscribe - <mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au>
