Hi Neil, I am just heading out so I cannot respond at length now. I am not a network person either so I could be wrong, but it sounds to me as though your border modem is not in bridge mode. I could be wrong, but I don't think it would handle DHCP etc. in bridge mode.
I'll be off-line for the afternoon but back at it tonight. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-02-04, at 14:11, Neil Houghton wrote: > Hi all concerned ( Carlo, Phillip, Ronni, Gillian), > > I’m no networking guru – so apologies if I confuse the issue. > > > I just had an observation re VOIP/bridging: > > > My border modem is a Billion VOIP modem/router – it is setup to handle VOIP > (internode nodephone) and I also have an old imac next to the router > connected directly to one of the ethernet ports. My other iMacs are at the > other ends of the house, wirelessly connected. > > Although the Billion does have wireless capability, it is quite old and I > could not get it to successfully talk to the macs in a secure mode (OK with > security off – turn on security couldn’t connect) - this was covered in a few > forums and I could have probably worked around it with some firmware updates > and reconfiguration of the router – however, I decided to just switch off > wireless on the Billion and use an Apple wireless network. > > I already had an Airport Express and found that it met my needs without > needing to buy an Airport Extreme Base station (the Airport Express is just > connected directly to another Ethernet port on the Billion) - of course, > Phillip already has the base stations so he is already covered . > > > The point is that following list advice (thanks Daniel!!) I switched the > Airport Express to bridged mode and now: > > > The VOIP works just fine > The secure wireless network is just apple (the airport express, in bridged > mode) > The billion handles all the DHCP for both the wired and wireless connections > (so the iMac plugged into the billion and the wirelessly connected iMacs are > all essentially on the same network) > > > I realise that my setup is not directly comparable to Phillip’s – I just > wanted to point out that VOIP can work in conjunction with a bridged Apple > wireless system. > > > > Cheers > > > > Neil > -- > Neil R. Houghton > Albany, Western Australia > Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 > Email: [email protected] > > > > > on 4/2/11 12:14 PM, cm at [email protected] wrote: > >> Hi all concerned (Phillip, Ronni, Gillian), >> >> I was planning to respond with what Gillian put forward as her option one. >> It is what I do for my own network at home and a few others that I have >> configured. Thanks Gillian for clearly spelling out the configuration >> details of this setup. To add my two cents worth, here is what I see as the >> pros and cons of this configuration. (For simplicity I will call the Telstra >> router the border router or modem. This is the common terminology for the >> device at the border between your internal network and the external network). >> >> Pros >> * the border router can be very simple. It does not require wireless and it >> only needs one port. It can usually be a very cheap commodity ASDL modem. >> This does not apply in your case as you already have the router. >> * You will be using your Airport or Time Capsule to control your network. >> You can thus take advantage of the wonderful Airport configuration utility >> to control all aspects of your setup. If you change ISP again, there is not >> need to learn a different configuration utility for the new service >> provider. You just continue to use Airport with all the settings in tact. >> >> Cons >> * If you are planning to use a VOIP feature of the border modem you cannot >> use this configuration. My experience is that VOIP will not work >> simultaneously with bridge mode. >> >> Incidentally, with the router models that I have seen, it is still possible >> to manage a router that is in bridge mode. Seeing it has no external IP >> address, one must plug a notebook computer directly into the router via an >> ethernet cable. >> >> Cheers, >> Carlo >> >> >> >> On 2011-02-04, at 10:26, Gillian Affleck wrote: >> >>> Hi Philip and Ronni, >>> >>> I'm thinking doing one of the following should work, although I'm not >>> familiar with the Airport Base stations, or the Telstra 3G21WB NEXT G >>> Router. >>> >>> 1. Same as your option 'B' Ronni (to connect the main Airport Base station >>> to the Telstra 3G21WB NEXT G Router) via ethernet. >>> It would be a matter of configuring the Telstra 3G21WB to be in 'bridge' >>> mode so it is not a router but a bridge. We've done this on Billion and >>> Linksys modem/routers so it should be possible with the Telstra >>> 3G21WB modem/router. If its 'bridge' mode doesn't automatically turn off >>> its wireless mode (2.4Ghz or 5GHz), I'd turn it off. >>> >>> 2. Replace the Main Airport Base station with the Telstra 3G21WB, and keep >>> the Airport Base station in the cottage. These two can then talk to each >>> other wirelessly as the 2 Aiport Base stations did. >>> How (and whether) this works depends upon how you were using the >>> simultaneous dual bands. I haven't found much information on the Telstra >>> 3G21WB but I doubt that it is simultaneous dual band. It will either be >>> 2.4GH or 5Ghz.. >>> >>> Either of these options should allow the printer to stay in the cottage >>> and still be wireless, and Philip need only connect to one network from the >>> Macs. >>> I suspect the first option will be easier to set up. One thing to remember >>> when configuring this option is that once you've put the Telstra 3G21WB >>> into 'bridge' mode, if you need to get back into its web-based GUI to >>> reconfigure it, you will probably need to do a reset to factory settings, >>> because as a bridge it doesn't have an IP address of its own to connect to >>> for configuration purposes. So it is a good idea to write down any >>> non-factory settings you change (which shouldn't be many because a bridge >>> doesn't have to know much ;-) ). >>> >>> Hope this is of some help. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Gillian. >>> > > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Unsubscribe - <mailto:[email protected]> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Unsubscribe - <mailto:[email protected]>
