Hi Ronni - and greetings from my main partition! You are perspicacious to notice my silence on the backup thing. I didn't want to bore you with my theory that the pb is a kind of satellite of my home mac (time machine on fw drive, regular superduper clones) so there's nothing on the pb that isn't at home as well, and all work done on the road is in dropbox, so from the point of view of data loss, the pb doesn't really need a backup, and as I have my spare partition and install disc I have always managed to get out of trouble. SO FAR!
But I see that if I should get in such a fix that only an erase and install would do, now that I am away quite a lot, then a bootable clone would be really handy. What do you suggest - a little portable fw drive if there's such a thing? Anyway - for the moment I have followed your instructions to the letter and seem to be running fine again, though it did have a Panic in the middle of the combo update, which was disturbing. I ran it again. So here comes a frantic Sunday catching up on all the work - hope yours is more peaceful and thanks so much alastair On 10/12/2011, at 11:07 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: > Hi Alastair, > > You seem to be avoiding my questions on backup which I've asked in > replies to your original problems... “Do you have a Bootable > Backup” or a Backup system in place? > > I personally would prefer to do a clean “Erase & Install” of Tiger. > But as you have another partition on the drive, and I have a > feeling you might not have a bootable backup or backup, this might > not be an option for you. > > Alastair, everything I mention below is given to you with care, but > I take no responsibility it it doesn’t solve the problems or causes > loss of data (as I suspect it may not correct your problems, as > your PB does not have much RAM and is showing signs of wearing out). > > The FIRST thing you have to do is Repair your Mac OS X Startup Disk! > > NOTE: Archive and Install may not solve the problem: > > For example, if the source of the problem is a corrupted file in > one of the Users folders, such as a preference or cache file in > your Home folder, performing an Archive and Install with the > Preserve User and Network Settings option will not solve the > problem as the corrupted file will be retained. > =================================== > > If you wish to go ahead and do an Archive & Install you need to have: > * The full Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 Retail Package DVD > > *Sufficient free or available disk space for a second, full > installation of Mac OS X on the volume on which the Archive and > Install will be performed. The available space should meet the > value specified for available disk space in the system requirements > for the version of Mac OS X to be reinstalled. This is generally: 5 > GB for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. > > A: Repair your Mac OS X Startup Disk > > 1. Start up from your Mac OS X Install Disc (by holding the C key). > Wait for the Installer window to load. > 2. Select your language. > 3. After the Installer window appears, select Utilities > Disk > Utility from the menu bar. > 4. After Disk Utility opens, click the First Aid tab. > 5. Select your Mac OS X startup disk. Normally, this will be the > volume Macintosh HD. > 6. Click Repair Disk > > If step 6 either finds errors that Disk Utility cannot repair, or > fails with error code -9972, then you will probably need to use a > third-party disk utility to repair the selected volume, such as > DiskWarrior or TechTool Pro. > Be sure to write down the problems noted by Disk Utility, copying > the exact text of the messages. > > 7. After Repair Disk completes Quit (Command-Q) Disk Utility. Then > returns to the Installer. > 8. Select the Volume you wish to install Tiger to (which probably > is already selected) > 9. Click Options > 10. Select “Archive and Install” > 11. Select the Volume which already has Mac OS X installed > 12. Select “Preserve Users and Network Settings, if you are going > to preserve network and Home directory settings. > 13. Click OK > 14. Click continue to begin the installation > > <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1710?viewlocale=en_US> > > B: Update OS X 10.4 to OS X 10.4.11 by installing the Combo Update > > Mac OS X 10.4.11 Combo Update (PPC) > <http://support.apple.com/downloads/ > Mac_OS_X_10_4_11_Combo_Update__PPC_> > > C: REPAIR PERMISSIONS > D: Run Software Update and install all updates > E: REPAIR PERMISSIONS again. > > Cheers, > Ronni > > ===================== > On 10/12/2011, at 9:22 AM, alastair taylor wrote: > >> Hi Ronni >> Sorry about the new thread - can't get into Mail and forgot the >> name of the old one. I have 70gig free and 50 used on the >> partition in question.would that do? The bloke in pro byte in >> bunbury also suggested an archive and install, so if you think so >> too that's the clincher. I have a panic log but it might as well >> be in Urdu! Don't have tech tool or similar unfortunately. PB >> currently booted from another partition on the hd. >> Thanks so much for help >> Best >> Alastair >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Ronda Brown" <[email protected]> >> Date: Fri, Dec 9, 2011 12:48 pm >> Subject: dodgy powerbook strikes again >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Hi Alastair, >> >> I had to search back through the archives to find the problems you >> were experiencing with your Powerbook. >> It’s always good to keep the same ‘Subject' so we know what >> problems you were experiencing and what suggestions we have >> already given. Its hard to remember every members problems... >> >> Your original Subject: Re: applications quitting on powerbook: >> 09/11/2011 to 17/112011 >> >> We did find you had a dodgy Memory Slot which you felt you had >> fixed by rubbing the contacts on >> the dimm with a pencil eraser. >> >> In my last post to you back then I mentioned: >> >>> I expect you do have a good 'Backup Plan' in place though. >>> Just in case the PowerBook is wearing out, and this may not be a >>> permanent fix. >> >> ================================ >> >> On 08/12/2011, at 7:24 PM, alastair taylor wrote: >> >>> Dear all >>> The ol' pb has been going fine - thanks for the help - until >>> today when it >>> had a couple of kernal panics and then after booting from the cd >>> to try a >>> permission repair I could no longer find the startup disc to >>> revert to my >>> main partition. The partition is still there - it's in the >>> sidebar and >>> shows in disc utility, and apparently doesn't need repairing, but it >>> doesn't appear in Startup Disc. I've reset pram and pmu to no >>> avail. Any >>> suggestions please? >>> >>> thanks >>> alastair >> >> >> So, how have your booted the powerbook to send this email to the >> mailing list? >> >> You need to boot from the CD/DVD to repair the hard disk, did you >> do that? >> If you have TechTool Pro, Disk Warrior or Drive Genius to try to >> repair the disk? >> >> Do you have a bootable backup? >> How much ‘Free Space’ do you have on the Hard Drive? I don’t think >> you have enough to do an “Archive & Install”. >> >> A kernel panic is an action taken by an operating system upon >> detecting an internal fatal error from which it cannot safely >> recover. >> When a kernel panic occurs, a log of the event is usually saved >> (in Tiger OS X 10.4.11), in the file “panic.log” in the Mac HD > >> Library > Logs folder. >> >> Double click the panic log and a new console window will open. >> New panic logs are added to the end of panic.log. >> >> >> Cheers, >> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/ > wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
