Correction of wording. :-}

If you take a photo on, say, your iPhone does it show up in Photo Stream on 
your iPad and in **iPhoto** on your Mac?


On 03/06/2012, at 22:46 , cm wrote:

> Well done Daniel! 
> 
> Just one more question Callum. Is your Photo Stream now working as 
> advertised? If you take a photo on, say, your iPhone does it show up in Photo 
> Stream on your iPad and in iPhone on your Mac?
> 
> Regards,
> Carlo
> 
> On 03/06/2012, at 22:28 , Callum Prior wrote:
> 
>> Victory!
>> 
>> ImageCapture only recognised the same images as iPhoto, but Phoneview seems 
>> to have imported all of the photos off the iPad with just one click, though 
>> I've got a bit of work ahead of me establishing the albums and removing the 
>> duplicates.
>> 
>> Many thanks for the recommendation, and thanks again to yourself, Ronni and 
>> Carlo.
>> 
>> Callum
>> 
>> On 03/06/2012, at 9:51 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Callum
>>> 
>>> Other options to try.
>>> ImageCapture (in Applications folder). Open up, and when plugged in, it 
>>> hopefully may show all the photos not the device. Then give you options to 
>>> select all and import into Picture folder. (or someone else). Then import 
>>> into iPhoto.
>>> PhoneView. (Good for other things too) - 
>>> <http://www.ecamm.com/mac/phoneview/> Not free though. Gives you access to 
>>> the device, and photos are listed. So may be able to import from there as 
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> Just a couple of things I thought of as well….
>>> (Sorry might be missing some of your info, as sidetracked on another issue 
>>> plus two other jobs at the same time,…lol).
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Daniel Kerr
>>> MacWizardry
>>> 
>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **For everything Apple**
>>> 
>>> On 03/06/2012, at 9:45 PM, Callum Prior wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have tried that, sadly in the iPad's case it's saying that it's only 
>>>> already imported 60 photos.
>>>> 
>>>> As I say it doesn't seem to be recognising photos on the device at all, 
>>>> for the most part.  It's certainly not importing any albums, the only 
>>>> thing that works is reserving the photos back into the camera roll which 
>>>> seems to be forcing the iMac to recognise them again.
>>>> 
>>>> Callum
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/06/2012, at 9:26 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Callum
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you plug in the iDevices and open iPhoto, then under Devices once you 
>>>>> click on your iPhone (or iPad), does it show the Window "Already 
>>>>> Imported". perhaps it thinks it's already imported them on a previous 
>>>>> occasion. If it does, you can then click on the right hand side and 
>>>>> choose "Show all x photos". If it does, you can then Command-A (to select 
>>>>> all), then choose "Import Selected". It should then go through and bring 
>>>>> in any and all photos. (And it will ask about Duplicates as well). 
>>>>> That way you may be able to bring back ones it thinks it's already got.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Daniel Kerr
>>>>> MacWizardry
>>>>> 
>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> **For everything Apple**
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 03/06/2012, at 8:46 PM, Callum Prior wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Carlo,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I like and understand the explanation, sadly it doesn't appear to fit my 
>>>>>> situation at least for the most part. :P
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some of the photos appearing in the iMac photo stream are from 2009.  
>>>>>> There are only about a dozen photos from within the last 30 days, and 
>>>>>> it's not recognising all the photos my other devices have taken in the 
>>>>>> last thirty days.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's sill unclear why the iMac isn't recognising and syncing the albums 
>>>>>> on both the iOS devices when connected via cable. In the case of the 
>>>>>> iPad it only recognises 214 photos in total out of the many hundreds 
>>>>>> that exist on the device irrespective of the cloud. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 03/06/2012, at 7:43 PM, cm wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Callum,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think I may be able to explain what is happening here but it is only 
>>>>>>> my best guess. My understanding is that photos in Photo Stream will 
>>>>>>> remain on the iCloud server for 30 days to give all your devices a 
>>>>>>> chance to sync. Each individual portable device will retain the 1000 
>>>>>>> most recent photos regardless of their age, and on your Mac you can 
>>>>>>> configure iPhoto to retain Photo Stream photos indefinitely. A quick 
>>>>>>> aside, I have iPhoto set to retain my Photo Stream and I strongly 
>>>>>>> recommend that everyone do the same. This can be configured in iPhoto > 
>>>>>>> Preferences > Photo Stream.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So you lost your main Mac, iPhoto repository and thus lost your 
>>>>>>> continuous store of all Photo Stream photos. I could be wrong here but 
>>>>>>> perhaps an iDevice Photo Stream contains the last 30 days photos in 
>>>>>>> plus any any photos that were taken on that particular device whether 
>>>>>>> they be older than 30 days or not.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So at a guess, 294 of your photos where taken within the last 30 days 
>>>>>>> and they are currently stored in iCloud and thus were restored to your 
>>>>>>> Mac when you reactivated iCloud on your new install. Your iPhone has 
>>>>>>> these 294 photos taken in the last 30 days plus all the other photos 
>>>>>>> taken on your iPhone. This number would normally be trimmed to 1000, 
>>>>>>> but since you have 844 photos in your iPhone Photo Stream, you have not 
>>>>>>> yet hit that limit. So in principle your iPhone has all the photos ever 
>>>>>>> taken on it (plus those taken on any device in the last 30 days). 
>>>>>>> Lastly the iPad shares these 294 photos plus 188 other photos that were 
>>>>>>> taken on the iPad itself. Again this number is less than 1000 so not 
>>>>>>> photos have been lost.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Let me know if these tallies with reality. :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 03/06/2012, at 17:52 , Callum Prior wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Prior to my data loss on my iMac and iMac backup last month both my 
>>>>>>>> iPad and iPhone were set to iCloud backup, and remain so, and 
>>>>>>>> everything functioned as you, Carlo and Daniel describe below.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My issues at the moment:
>>>>>>>> Given the data loss I've experienced on my iMac, I'm very keen to 
>>>>>>>> repopulate it with the photos from both my iPhone and iPad. I tend not 
>>>>>>>> to delete photos on either device unless I'm short of space, so I've a 
>>>>>>>> fairly decent backup between the both of them.
>>>>>>>> iPhoto on the iMac is currently recognising a limited number of photos 
>>>>>>>> in the photo stream as compared to both my iOS devices. As my 
>>>>>>>> understanding was that the photo stream was a shared resource I'm 
>>>>>>>> unclear as to why each device is showing a different number of photos 
>>>>>>>> available. It also hasn't recognised any of the albums set up on both 
>>>>>>>> iOS devices.
>>>>>>>> The photo stream on all devices are also showing photos far older than 
>>>>>>>> 30 days
>>>>>>>> Duplicate photos have appeared, sometimes three or four copies of each 
>>>>>>>> once I had tried the initial re-sync when my hard drive was replaced.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> iMac photostream = 294 photos
>>>>>>>> iPhone photostream = 844 photos
>>>>>>>> iPhoto on the iPad photo stream = 482 photos
>>>>>>>> iPad photo stream = 482 photos
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have only one iTunes account.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 02/06/2012, at 10:19 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Callum,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Carlo, I'm sure you meant to type 1,000 photos not 100 :)
>>>>>>>>> Just to add a bit to Carlo's reply.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apple assumes most people will manage their photos on a Mac or PC, 
>>>>>>>>> and as long as your computer is set up to use Photo Stream, it 
>>>>>>>>> preserves all your downloaded photos indefinitely—no 30-day limit. 
>>>>>>>>> You can then sync any photos you want to carry around to your iOS 
>>>>>>>>> device. 
>>>>>>>>> For example, you can create an album in iPhoto, and then, in iTunes, 
>>>>>>>>> make sure your iOS device is configured to sync that album.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However, if you don’t regularly use a Mac or PC that’s set up for 
>>>>>>>>> iCloud, you should take the precaution of reviewing your Photo Stream 
>>>>>>>>> photos every week or two and saving those that you want to keep in 
>>>>>>>>> your Camera Roll (if they’re not already there) or another album.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Callum, are you using 'iCloud Backup' on your iPhone, or are you 
>>>>>>>>> backing up your iPhone using iTunes?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2012, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Callum,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Glad to hear you have your photos synced with iPhoto. Once you get 
>>>>>>>>>> the pics in iPhoto they are saved on your computer (as you probably 
>>>>>>>>>> know) so you don't really need to proceed with saving the photos on 
>>>>>>>>>> all your portable devices as well. If you do also want to save Photo 
>>>>>>>>>> Stream photos to the camera roll on an iPhone or an iPad there is a 
>>>>>>>>>> bit of clicking involved but with the correct sequence you can 
>>>>>>>>>> reduce the click count to around one click per photo, and seeing 
>>>>>>>>>> there is a maximum of 100 photos in Photo Stream that is not too 
>>>>>>>>>> onerous.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> For an iPad, for instance, you can proceed as follows
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Open up the Photos app and select the Photo Stream tab at the top 
>>>>>>>>>> of the page.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Click the share button. Its icon is a square with a curved arrow 
>>>>>>>>>> exiting up and to the right.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Click each photo of interest, or in your case all the photos. As 
>>>>>>>>>> you touch each a check mark will appear on it.
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Click the Save button to save the selected photos to Camera Roll.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'll post some thoughts later on your Photo Stream mismatch. I have 
>>>>>>>>>> seen something similar but not as extreme as in your case. Do you 
>>>>>>>>>> have more than one Apple ID?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2012, at 19:00 , Callum Prior wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I've run a test with that method and it's worked a treat.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On my iPhone I resaved a couple of photos from Photostream to the 
>>>>>>>>>>> camera roll.  For some reason I thought you couldn't attach an iOS 
>>>>>>>>>>> device to the iMac while they were set to sync to the Cloud, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still confused as to why each device appears to be seeing a 
>>>>>>>>>>> different stream.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My next question is if there's a way to mass select and save photos 
>>>>>>>>>>> in Photostream on my iPad/iPhone to the camera roll, or do I have a 
>>>>>>>>>>> lot of tapping ahead of me?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Callum
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2012, at 6:47 PM, cm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Callum,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> One way is to connect your iPhone to a Mac with a docking cable 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and then open iPhoto. You will be prompted to save the photos as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> an event within iPhoto. Alternatively if you do not own iPhoto you 
>>>>>>>>>>>> can use Image Capture which comes with the operating system.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> C
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2012, at 18:37, Callum Prior 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Carlo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That bit I get, but I don't understand why each device is showing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a different number of photos available from the cloud, or where 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the duplicates came from. Nor how to dump the photos from each 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> device back into the iMac.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2012, at 6:29 PM, cm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Callum,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could turn into a long thread but I will start the ball 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolling by saying that iCloud Photo Stream stores at most 1000 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photos and only stores your new photos for 30 days. So you might 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find iCloud has significantly fewer photos than the devices it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is used to sync. To preserve a photo from Photo Stream you need 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to download it to a local device, be it a Mac, iPhone or iPad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2012, at 18:19 , Callum Prior wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last month I had a massive technological failure resulting in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the loss of my main drive and backups.  Data recovery hasn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone that well so I'm in the process of rebuilding everything I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the moment the only record of my photos exists in iCloud and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the camera rolls and folders of my iPhone and iMac. What's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confusing me is that they all show different numbers of photos 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when they should be synced. A fair number of duplicates have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also appeared.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way to resync all my devices or push the photos to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iMac without losing anything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Callum
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