Yes, true. There is always a risk involved when buying refurbished. Sometimes they have been returned with a problem and repaired. If you are lucky they have been returned because the user changed their mind about the screen size or about switching from Windows -- but of course one will never know when you buy a refurbished model.
Regards, Carlo On 15/06/2012, at 10:19 , Ronda Brown wrote: > Yes Carlo, but they are refurbished 17" MacBook Pros... not new! That is a > big difference. > I know they come with the full Apple Warranty - 12 months hardware etc, but I > want a new MacBook Pro NOT a refurbished MBP :( > > Cheers, > Ronni > > On 15/06/2012, at 10:13 AM, cm wrote: > >> Yes, you're right. I got the wrong terminology for the warranties. You can >> thank me later for pointing you to the last of the 17" MacBook Pro in stock. >> :-) >> >> Regards, >> Carlo >> >> On 15/06/2012, at 10:08 , Daniel Kerr wrote: >> >>> Hi Carlo >>> >>> Not meaning to be pedantic, or sound like I"m being rude,… >>> but I think you mean "full Apple warranty". (i.e. 12 months hardware >>> warranty and 90 days Apple phone support). >>> "AppleCare" warranty is the extended warranty that is 3 years hardware and >>> phone support. >>> (Which you can still purchase on the refurb units as well,..) >>> >>> Just wanted to clarify that just incase. :o) >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Daniel >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 4s >>> >>> --- >>> Daniel Kerr >>> MacWizardry >>> >>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>> >>> >>> **For everything Apple** >>> >>> On 15/06/2012, at 9:59 AM, cm wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> If you still want a 17" MacBook Pro they appear to be available still as >>>> refurbished models. They come with the full AppleCare warranty. >>>> >>>> http://store.apple.com/au/product/FC723 >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Carlo >>>> >>>> On 14/06/2012, at 22:09 , Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>> >>>>> Yes, knew you wouldn't be a very happy vegemite. (Could double tell >>>>> seeing as you posted the same link from my message as well :oP) LOL. >>>>> (Sorry, couldn't resist,…must be that lack of sleep from storms and no >>>>> food or coffee) :oP >>>>> I think there are quite a few "let down" MacBook Pro 17" owners, who are >>>>> having to look at the 15" MBP-RD. Or a 15" with an external screen,…which >>>>> doesn't always work for every environment. One of my clients only works >>>>> with her laptop on the kitchen table then puts it away when people come >>>>> over. So looking at a 15" with external screen isn't really an option as >>>>> it's too much to lug around to put it away. So a downgrade from 17" to >>>>> 15" isn't her most favourite option either. >>>>> >>>>> And not many places have the just superseded 17" left in Perth. >>>>> (Wholesalers didn't, Joondalup didn't, MaxStyle didn't,..bar the previous >>>>> model ex demo). Stocks were pretty much out before it was discontinued,…) >>>>> >>>>> So yeh,..can understand where you're coming from. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> Daniel >>>>> --- >>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>> MacWizardry >>>>> >>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>> >>>>> On 14/06/2012, at 10:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Daniel, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am so disappointed that Apple are discontinuing the 17" MacBook Pro. I >>>>>> have been waiting for an upgrade to be announced. >>>>>> Dropping support for their top of the range, two highest professional >>>>>> Computers, the Mac Pro & 17" MacBook Pro. Purely because they don't sell >>>>>> as many as other models! >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple are now catering for the multi media, social media customers, not >>>>>> the professional users. >>>>>> I have always updated every one of laptops; 17" PowerBook, 17" MacBook >>>>>> Pro to latest models when released. Now Apple want to force me to use a >>>>>> 15" MacBook Pro... When I want the extra size screen ... A 17" screen! >>>>>> >>>>>> Ronni is NOT a Happy Little Vegemite :( >>>>>> >>>>>> Some interesting reviews at AnandTech. >>>>>> >>>>>> MacBook Pro Retina Display Analysis >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis> >>>>>> >>>>>> Windows 8 on the Retina Display MacBook Pro >>>>>> <http://www.anandtech.com/show/6008/windows-8-on-the-retina-display-macbook-pro> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hard to say, Cheers Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13/06/2012, at 9:52 PM, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Carlo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Though I agree with you on the screen, and I'm not arguing that point >>>>>>> that it's a great machine,.. (not matter how many times you quote that >>>>>>> comment) :oP my "concern" (and I use that term lightly,..more of a >>>>>>> query perhaps),..is how the screen will handle "upsizing" or scaling or >>>>>>> whatever it's called of non Retina written software. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The last three paragraphs of this article are a bit of what I'm >>>>>>> thinking… >>>>>>> <http://www.extremetech.com/computing/130819-analyzing-the-macbook-pro-with-retina-display/2> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because I know what "doubling" on the iPad is like for non native Apps. >>>>>>> It can look chunky and clunky and "messy". Also, how small does >>>>>>> everything when it's running at "really big resolution". >>>>>>> I work with a CTO 15" Antiglare HiRes Screen as it is with my >>>>>>> MacBookPro and yes, I enjoy the extra space that it gives when compared >>>>>>> to the "normal" non HiRes screen, but at what point does the font size >>>>>>> become too small that it's difficult to read. >>>>>>> And with the upscaling of non "Retina-aware" applications what do the >>>>>>> fonts and text look like,..or will look like. I know it will be fine >>>>>>> for the Apple Apps as they have been re-written to work with it. But >>>>>>> other apps (such as Filemaker), which (I think) isn't written for it >>>>>>> (haven't played with version 12, so can't comment fully), but those >>>>>>> sort of things are ones that just interest me to see how it does it. >>>>>>> That's just one of the "issues" I'm still not up with. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, I'm probably not explaining this very well. >>>>>>> I think this page sort of helps what I'm trying to explain. Where they >>>>>>> show Google Chrome working against Safari on a MBP-RD >>>>>>> <http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis> >>>>>>> (About half way down the page under "Application Support for Retina >>>>>>> Display". >>>>>>> I don't actually use Google Chrome myself, I use Safari, but I'm just >>>>>>> using this as an example. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know I probably won't get an idea on this, until I've seen one of the >>>>>>> laptops in the "flesh" and have a play with it to see how it handles it >>>>>>> all. And then see how it compares with the standard range. >>>>>>> (Of which if I did go for the standard MacBookPro, then I'd still get >>>>>>> the CTO option of the Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen - as it's only $120. >>>>>>> As that runs at a native resolution of 1680 x 1050 versus 1440x900 for >>>>>>> the normal screen). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And yes, like you, the old "it's a brand new model, before of >>>>>>> version1.0 things is always a bit of a concern too. I'm sure Apple test >>>>>>> that thing to all it's limits, but sometimes just waiting to the second >>>>>>> revision of a product lets them "iron out" any other "bugs" (or >>>>>>> features depending how you look at it,…lol) once it's released into the >>>>>>> wild. :o) >>>>>>> It was like that with the PowerBook G4. The last PowerBook G4 (1.67GHz) >>>>>>> they released was the best well built feature set laptop they made (at >>>>>>> the time). Because by that time they had ironed out everything that was >>>>>>> missing and improved on to get it perfect. :) (I suppose a bit like OSX >>>>>>> 10.0 compared with others really,…lol). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway,..I'm rambling again. I don't think I can really decide/comment >>>>>>> much further until there are some *real* real world tests, or I've >>>>>>> actually had time to see or play with it to see what it's really like. >>>>>>> (And it may be one of those things. Once you see it and get your hands >>>>>>> on it, you decide any of the "issues" really aren't "issues".) Either >>>>>>> that or I'll stay with the "standard looking" MacBookPro for this year, >>>>>>> til the next update comes out,….lol :o) >>>>>>> Hopefully they'll have one in the AppleStore in town to look at when I >>>>>>> go in to get my wifes dead iPhone looked at. It's just dead. Nothing >>>>>>> will revive it. Bit strange for an 18mth old iPhone 4. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13/06/2012, at 11:19 AM, cm wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Daniel, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With all that you said I still see no advantage in the old model. >>>>>>>> Whatever you need to do, the new model will do it (only quicker). The >>>>>>>> new Retina MBP is truly a technical marvel. To quote again "it is the >>>>>>>> best computer Apple has ever produced". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just the display is worth the price of entry. :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some caveats. Because it is so new, I would probably wait a month or >>>>>>>> so to see if there are any problems with the graphics card or the >>>>>>>> circuitry to iron out. Highly unlikely with Apple's testing and Tim >>>>>>>> Cook wanting to appear competent but it is still a possibility. It did >>>>>>>> occur to me also that one may not be able to expand the new MBP as in >>>>>>>> the case of the MacBook Air but I am not sure that will be the case. >>>>>>>> For the MacBook Air they have that restriction in place because of the >>>>>>>> nature of the case -- it give advantages in strength and makes it more >>>>>>>> watertight. If that were the case with the new Retina MBP I would be >>>>>>>> tempted to buy the highest spec one I could afford from the get go. >>>>>>>> True you would not be able to upgrade it, but as a trade off the unit >>>>>>>> would be stronger -- time will tell on this point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Carlo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13/06/2012, at 10:39 , Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Carlo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, had all those points. >>>>>>>>> Just to add to yours those. I don't "really" have to lose the Optical >>>>>>>>> drive if I fit an SSD drive. I already have an SSD drive in this >>>>>>>>> laptop. (I removed my 750GB 7200rpm drive and put in a Series6 SSD >>>>>>>>> 256GB Drive. So I still get to keep my Optical drive and have the >>>>>>>>> speed performance of the SSD. So I could do the same with the new >>>>>>>>> one. Just swap over the drive.) I then get both SSD and Optical still >>>>>>>>> :o) >>>>>>>>> Yes, do have to carry run lots of cables. I was doing all that before >>>>>>>>> anyway. Plus I always have in my pocket a Firewire800/400 adapter. It >>>>>>>>> just clips to the end of a FW400 cable. So even if I have no cables, >>>>>>>>> I still have the adapter. Plus it's lighter. Mind you my pocket >>>>>>>>> carries 2 flash drives, that adapter and a pocket knife,…lol. >>>>>>>>> And I already carry three external drives as well (2 Firewire/USB >>>>>>>>> multiport drives and 1 USB bootable drive). They have a stack of what >>>>>>>>> I need on them. So I can keep my SSD pretty lean anyway. I actually >>>>>>>>> only run on about 100GB at most on the SSD. So plenty of room to work >>>>>>>>> with. :o) >>>>>>>>> I think the ports work out about the same kinda. Cause if you had the >>>>>>>>> MBP-RD and needed to be on Ethernet, using Firewire then you're out >>>>>>>>> of pots on the MBP-RD but you still have the Thunderbolt free on the >>>>>>>>> "standard" MBP. :o) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The top MBP and entry level MBP-RD work out the same price (RRP >>>>>>>>> $2499), so I was basing it on that. But yes, as you add more RAM and >>>>>>>>> drives versus adapters, then the pricing changes quite a bit. So the >>>>>>>>> old MBP would work out more expensive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But yes, there are lots of good reasons for both. It just comes down >>>>>>>>> to what the person wants to do with it. >>>>>>>>> It's a bit like the argument to go with a 256GB SSD versus the 500GB >>>>>>>>> SSD. (Or flash drive). Is it with the $600 odd on various machines. >>>>>>>>> Or can you lean out what you store on the machine and keep an >>>>>>>>> external USB drive with you. (Or at home). Some will see the value >>>>>>>>> that extra storage space will be to have it internally and $600 will >>>>>>>>> be fine. Others will take the 256GB SSD and buy a 500GB USB drive >>>>>>>>> (which is about $100-$150 depending on brands etc). It's perception >>>>>>>>> of value versus useful versus budget. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That was another thing with the new MBP-RD. You can't "add" to it if >>>>>>>>> you have. Budget restrictions mean you can buy a standard MBP and >>>>>>>>> then down the track add in more RAM later (take it from 8GB to 16GB) >>>>>>>>> and as pricing comes down take out the normal drive and add in an SSD >>>>>>>>> of your choice at a later date. I could be wrong, but I think you >>>>>>>>> have to make all those choices with the MBP-RD at the start as you >>>>>>>>> can't modify it later on. I haven't looked at that point with detail, >>>>>>>>> so as mentioned could be wrong, but was just something i had thought >>>>>>>>> of last night after my other post,..lol. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Still though, I'm still un-decided on both,…lol. :o) I think they're >>>>>>>>> both great machines, I can just see some of the >>>>>>>>> advantages/disadvatages to both :o) And that may be the same for >>>>>>>>> other people looking at both machines as well. >>>>>>>>> Some will suit one person, some will suit others. That's the nature >>>>>>>>> of the beast. >>>>>>>>> But hey, if we had little choice and only had one, there would still >>>>>>>>> be lots to decide! lol ;)) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 11:57 PM, cm wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The rarefied field of the computer service person is not for >>>>>>>>>> everyone. I also operate in the field and have a kit of accessories >>>>>>>>>> that I bring along, but I would point out that the older MBP is not >>>>>>>>>> that far ahead even for this purpose. The kit of accessories for >>>>>>>>>> either MBP still requires that you bring an assortment of cables, >>>>>>>>>> thumb-drive, and one or more external hard-drives. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here are some points to note. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * If weight is your concern the Retina MBP starts out life a full >>>>>>>>>> half a kilo (one pound imperial) lighter than the older MBP! >>>>>>>>>> * The old MBP does not have that many extra ports. It has one fewer >>>>>>>>>> thunderbolt port and it lacks the HDMI port of the Retina MBP. The >>>>>>>>>> only extra ports are Firewire 800 and ethernet. These are available >>>>>>>>>> to the Retina MBP via thunderbolt adaptors. >>>>>>>>>> * A big advantage of flash drives over mechanical ones is that they >>>>>>>>>> are physically more robust and thus less prone to damage by rough >>>>>>>>>> handling or dropping. >>>>>>>>>> * Flash drives are, of course, much faster and boot up more quickly. >>>>>>>>>> * If, as you suggest, you fit an SSD drive in an old style MBP then >>>>>>>>>> you lose the optical drive. >>>>>>>>>> * Even with the Firewire 800 port you still have to remember to >>>>>>>>>> bring along the two styles of firewire cable if you want to be >>>>>>>>>> prepared for all contingencies. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The only real inarguable advantage of the old style MBP is that they >>>>>>>>>> are cheaper, but as the price of flash drives come down that >>>>>>>>>> advantage will likely evaporate too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Carlo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 23:00 , Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It comes down to your needs I feel. As Carlo's mentioned there are >>>>>>>>>>> good and bad to both of them. Again, it depends on your "primary" >>>>>>>>>>> usage. And what you don't mind "losing" to "gain". >>>>>>>>>>> Both the 15" MacBook Pro and the 15" MacBook Pro Retina Display >>>>>>>>>>> (MBP-RD) actually have the same Graphics card pretty much. (I'm >>>>>>>>>>> comparing both $2499 models). >>>>>>>>>>> They both use the Intel HD Graphics 4000 and NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M >>>>>>>>>>> with 1GB of GDDR5 memory and automatic graphics switching. So that >>>>>>>>>>> part is the same on both models. >>>>>>>>>>> And I would think the "standard" MacBook Pro 15" will still go to >>>>>>>>>>> 16GB RAM as well. >>>>>>>>>>> (I'm working on an early 2011 MacBook Pro 15" that Apple say can go >>>>>>>>>>> to 8GB RAM,..and I'm running it with 16GB PC10600 1333MHz RAM. And >>>>>>>>>>> it runs fine.) So I'd say people will find that can be bumped up as >>>>>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The "Standard" MacBook Pro has a slightly faster processor at >>>>>>>>>>> 2.6GHz versus 2.3GHz. But how much of a difference this is in real >>>>>>>>>>> world speeds, would depend on the task. >>>>>>>>>>> Certainly out of the box, I'd say the MBP-RD which has the Flash >>>>>>>>>>> Storage built in would make data access a lot faster. Whereas it >>>>>>>>>>> would cost $480 to add a 256MB SSD drive to the "standard" >>>>>>>>>>> MacBookPro. So data access would be a win there. (And I'm not to >>>>>>>>>>> sure how much of a difference Flash Storage versus SSD in "real >>>>>>>>>>> world tests" accounts for…that and my brain is in almost sleep mode >>>>>>>>>>> to go look it up,…lol). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And then it comes down to your connections you want to use. For >>>>>>>>>>> some people that are moving around a lot, and depending on the >>>>>>>>>>> field they're in, they still want "quick access" to things like >>>>>>>>>>> Firewire, Ethernet, Optical Drive. (yes, I know this doesn't affect >>>>>>>>>>> everyone and it comes down to their "use of the laptop", and that >>>>>>>>>>> you can hang off adapters of the MBP-RD, but at the end of the day, >>>>>>>>>>> it's ease of use and quick access. Do you want to carry around a >>>>>>>>>>> Thunderbolt to Firewire800 adapter, a Thunderbolt to Ethernet >>>>>>>>>>> adapter, a Thunderbolt Optical Drive. Sure, not everyone has use >>>>>>>>>>> for these things. But again, in some circumstances some people do. >>>>>>>>>>> On the read of various forums a lot of mobile editors and tech >>>>>>>>>>> support people do still want these things. They (we?) carry enough >>>>>>>>>>> stuff around in our bag without adding to it. And if you leave it >>>>>>>>>>> behind or it "drops off" during a transfer, you've wasted time. >>>>>>>>>>> (And time is money as they say,…lol). "Oh sorry, I can't access >>>>>>>>>>> your Firewire drive today, I left my Thunderbolt to Firewire800 >>>>>>>>>>> adapter with my last client. I'll have to come back"). Again, this >>>>>>>>>>> won't affect everyone,….I'll just trying to point out both sides of >>>>>>>>>>> the coin. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I certainly don't think for some it will be an easy decision. I >>>>>>>>>>> know I've looked at which model I'd like. And I think I'll need to >>>>>>>>>>> sit down and weigh up the pros and cons of both. And what is it >>>>>>>>>>> exactly I want out of the laptop. What features are the "must have" >>>>>>>>>>> and what features are the "can work around or live with". Is the >>>>>>>>>>> Retina Display going to be "huge" in the type of work I do, versus >>>>>>>>>>> the (sometimes) need for "legacy items" in the type of work I do. >>>>>>>>>>> (How much more weight can my back support in all the extras I have >>>>>>>>>>> to or need to carry around,…lol). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Don't get me wrong, I think they're both great machines and the new >>>>>>>>>>> MBP-RD looks to be a great machine, and will only get better from >>>>>>>>>>> there I'm sure. But it's what tool is the best for the job….. >>>>>>>>>>> And one will suit some people, and not others. And vice versa. :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hope that info helps. That's my take or view point on it anyway. ;)) >>>>>>>>>>> And on that note, I think I'll go finish my last few emails for the >>>>>>>>>>> night and finish my 2.5 day straight stint of work,…lol. :o) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 10:26 PM, cm wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you're involved with content production with Final Cut Pro or >>>>>>>>>>>> Photoshop or if you do software development, the new 15" Retina >>>>>>>>>>>> Display MacBook Pro looks amazing. The stunning amount of >>>>>>>>>>>> processor power, the fast huge RAM capacity, the enormous flash >>>>>>>>>>>> drive, and the still long battery life given the retina display >>>>>>>>>>>> seem more reminiscent of a server than a thin light laptop. Also >>>>>>>>>>>> the discrete graphics card, apart from being a must for gamers >>>>>>>>>>>> (which I am not) will provide a bank of GPU processing power that >>>>>>>>>>>> is being utilized by more and more apps. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree with a line that I heard during the keynote, it is >>>>>>>>>>>> the best computer that Apple has ever produced. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Carlo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> PS: they also finally said goodbye to the primitive, large buggy >>>>>>>>>>>> pieces of foil coated plastic known as DVDs. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 21:14, Pedro <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Blitto >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The new MacBook Air will be my choice. This article may help >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cultofmac.com/172812/should-you-get-the-new-macbook-pro-probably-not-heres-why/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedro >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 8:47 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi GuysAll of you who were looking forward to the new macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pros - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> please do you have an opinion as to which one you would >>>>>>>>>>>>>> purchase?And >>>>>>>>>>>>>> why?tablitto >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>

