Good advice.  Thank you.

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On 19/04/2013, at 10:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi People,
> 
> I find especially since OS X 10.7 & OS X 10.8 I now very rarely use any 
> third-party Disk Utilities.
> I have TechTool Pro 6, Drive Genius, CleanMyMac, DiskWarrior & other 
> utilities installed on my MacBook Pro and also on my support external drive.
> 
> Apple have improved hardware and OS X  that you don't really need to use any 
> third-party disk utility except in an emergency. A Mac running any version of 
> OS X later than 10.2 does not need to be defragmented and you should NEVER 
> Defrag SSD drives.
> 
> "A solid state drive has no moving parts, so there's no mechanical delay. 
> Reading a section of data takes approximately the same amount of time no 
> matter where it's located in the flash.
> Defragmenting a solid state drive is actually harmful because it forces the 
> drive to move data around for no good reason, and flash chips have a limit on 
> how many times they can rewrite a section."
> 
> I agree with what Peter has mentioned previously, and Severin's "housekeeping 
> measures" are fine.
> 
> The below article by Joe Kissell - 'Do you need a third-party disk utility?' 
> is worth a read before you spend quite a bit of money on third-party 
> utilities.
> 
> "OS X performs certain disk maintenance tasks automatically in the 
> background—for example, it defragments smaller files on the fly, keeping all 
> their segments contiguous on a hard disk so they’ll load faster. (Solid-state 
> drives don’t require such defragging.) And, when you perform a safe boot 
> (starting your Mac with the Shift key held down), OS X runs a more extensive 
> set of diagnostic and repair procedures without you doing anything else."
> 
> <http://www.macworld.com/article/2030516/do-you-need-a-third-party-disk-utility-.html>
> ----
> The most important thing is to have a good Backup Strategy in place, which 
> includes regular Bootable backups, Offsite backups, Incremental backups. 
> 
> Hard Drives do die and you are only as good as your last backup!
> 
> Regards,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 18/04/2013, at 2:26 PM, Severin Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Ken, I have looked at Disk Tools Pro but as I already have Tech Tools Pro, 
>> which I believe is better, I went no further.  As Peter says, the OS handles 
>> most things, but I still run Clean My Mac and Disk Warrior monthly as 
>> housekeeping measures and hold Tech Tools Pro at the ready in case of need.  
>> For speed and ease of use I have these and other utilities on an up to date 
>> bootable partition on a separate external drive, which I find to be an 
>> excellent arrangement.  
>> Best wishes
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>> On 18/04/2013, at 1:20 PM, Ken Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey thanks Peter for such an in depth response.
>>> Yes it's a part of one of those bundled packages being offered.
>>> Yes I'm backed up but I may just buy the package to have it there just in 
>>> case,
>>> 
>>> thanks again Peter,
>>> 
>>> Ken
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 April 2013 07:42, Peter Hinchliffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 17/04/2013, at 5:03 PM, Ken Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> has anyone tried this?
>>>> Would anyone recommend it?
>>>> 
>>>> DISK TOOLS PRO
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have Disk Tools Pro. I think I received it as part of some software 
>>> bundle at one time. Fortunately I have never had to use it in anger, so I 
>>> can't testify to its effectiveness. 
>>> 
>>> Like all software of this type, I would not regard it as maintenance 
>>> software, rather than a tool to have around in case of emergency. Writing 
>>> information back to a hard drive always carries risks, and software such as 
>>> this always has the potential to make a bad problem worse. Knowing this 
>>> makes such software difficult to road test. Sure, you can test it on a 
>>> non-essential drive, but if it comes back with no errors you are none the 
>>> wiser. If it does come back with errors, it's probably time to back up that 
>>> data and replace the drive. 
>>> 
>>> The other problem is that hard drives have so much capacity these days that 
>>> they are quite likely to have bad sectors, etc, out of the box. Any attempt 
>>> to repair these is usually futile. Modern OSes are designed to deal with 
>>> these as a routine matter, so unless they are demonstrably causing problems 
>>> they can generally be safely ignored. By all means it is probably a good 
>>> idea to have a tool such as Disk Tools Pro, or any of its cousins such as 
>>> Tech Tool Pro, Disk Warrior, Drive Genius, etc. They all have different 
>>> tools and purposes, but ultimately they are all designed to rescue you from 
>>> a disaster. The best defence remains a good backup strategy.
>>> 
>>> Peter Hinchliffe        Apwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
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