Hi DanielDon't ever apologise for "rambling" as you always share
valuable knowledge. Thanks for that.I have done some sums too and in
my scenario, unless I have missed something, the numbers work
differently.A few provisos:I must stay with Telstra because of their
coverage (particularly noticeable when out of the city on camping
trips). I have very low data and call requirements.I don't have a
problem sticking with one phone for 2 years.
So:
Phone with Plan:Telstra 64GB iPhone 6 on Small plan $550 calls 1GB
data Minimum total cost is $1968 over 24 months.
Purchase Own Phone: Telstra BYOM plan $550 calls 500mb data
$45/month, $1080 in 24 months PLUS cost of Phone $999 = $2079
Cheers
Rod
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Hi Rod
Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you
can get the info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a
post,…just sending it,…lol). (I changed the subject line slightly
as well).
Not necessarily…..it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm
afraid. And every person/plan is different. But I'll give you my take
on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates to me.
A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we
did some calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we
worked out the best plans for both of us. I went with a $79 BYOM plan
(bring your own mobile). The reason being it was cheaper per month by
about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month contract versus the
24 month contract. So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and
2.5GB data. (I went with Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at
the time and the better Telstra coverage I needed for moving around
Perth area and hills a lot,..as well as down South etc). The current
plan at the time where they gave you a "free" phone was about $99 or
$109 for the same value. So when I looked at it, it was about
$240-360 cheaper per year to buy the phone outright and then sign up
for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that if I looked at being
"locked in" to a 2 year contract plan. So over two years that figure
goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling off one
phone model as well.
That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. So jump forward to now,….
If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the
same $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend
between $950-$1150 worth of calls per month). To get a "similar" plan
now
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features
[1] The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of
calls depending on which "extra" I choose,..so although its $86/per
month it's not as good. So I look at the Large plan which will give me
either more data then I have now but less calls,…(which I could just
"squeeze" in.) or more call value and the same amount of data. (which
would be my safer bet). This plan is $95. Which is $16 per month more
and I'm locked into a 24month contract. And with that I get a "free"
64GB iPhone 6. (For ease of calculation I just look at it at $20/per
month more). But for exact calculation,..it's $192 per year dearer.
Factor that in being locked into a 2 year contract to
"compare",…then it's $384 dearer over those two years.
I then work out that roughly I can get $350-$400 for my wife's iPhone
4s 64GB. So take the lower figure. (She then gets my iPhone 5 32GB).
So I take those two figures together,…$384 :saving" and $350
selling the older phone. This makes a total of $734. To buy outright
the iPhone 6 64GB is $999. So if I then look over the 2 year period
again, it's "really" cost me about $265. (yes, I have to buy it at
full price upfront,..and hope that I sell the older iPhone. And then
wait for the full 2 years to get the "savings"). Anything falls over
with these "conditions" then can throw a spanner in the
works/calculation.
(plus, depending on jobs, some businesses will let you write off a
portion of your phone purchase as a business expensive…the higher
percentage depending on how much you use it for "work".).
Obviously there are a few factors that can poke holes in all this.
Not limited to,…if you upgrade again after 12 months, the
calculations are all thrown out. Given I skipped over the 5s and am
going from 5 to 6,…I assume that I'll go to the iPhone 7 (unless
there's some massive huge "wow" factor for the iPhone 6s) ("s" being
for Sapphire screen)….lol,..I don't know,..I'm guessing. (not that
I've ever broken a screen on any iPhone,..touch wood). Another factor
is if Telstra come along and say "I'm sorry we're discontinuing that
plan as it's an old plan and we no longer support it,…so you must
upgrade to our new "fantastic super beneficial much better" plans.
"(note the sarcasm and sales technique,….lol). Or some other
factors.
So hopefully that answers your plan, and calculations. For where I
buy. At this stage i keep trying the reservation service for the Apple
shops. (preferably Garden City). But if anyone else lets me buy it
outright,..then I'll go there. (JBHiFi won't sell outright until about
next week, as they sell on plans first,..as they make more money from
them over an outright purchase customer). Otherwise I was ummmming and
arrrring to buy it online direct from Apple. Either way, it's still
full RRP. Shops I can sometimes use my "retail experience jedi powers
"sell it a little cheaper please" magic,……". (or hey, how about
throw in a $20 cover) :o) Either way, I know they make nothing on it
really,….but hey. Always worth a try :))
So hopefully that one answers your buying question ;)
Hope all that helps. I'm sure my thinking can probably be picked
about in places,…but hey, for me,…I can make my calculations and
thinking work,..so that's the main thing. As long as I feel ok with
it,…then it's a win/win :o))
Again sorry for the long post,…was trying to get all my thinking on
to "paper"……lol :o)
Enjoy!!
Kind regards Daniel ---
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On 20/09/2014, at 12:34 PM, [email protected] [4] wrote:
Hi DanielAre you saying buy outright and then get a Telstra plan?
Which plan? Who do you buy outright from?
Please are you able to share your calculations? ta Blitto
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Yep, we know better eh Ronni,….lol.The money is better in our
pocket then Telstra's,….lol. Hope you enjoy your iPhone 6+. Too big
for me I'm afraid,…but then you and i work a little differently :o)
hehe. And I think I'd be lost if it didn't fit in my jeans pocket like
normal!! lol ;) (Might be different in 2015 with an iPhone 6s Plus and
an AppleWatch :oP hehe. ;o)
We can save all the extra money we "save" by not being on plan and
save it for an AppleWatch,…..lol. :o) hehehe.
Did yours arrive on Friday on time? (or did you miss the date like
you thought you might do,…..)? (or did 6 turn up like you thought
you may have done as well,….lol.hehe). Did you read about the
"hawkers" paying $120 extra for others to buy phones to take back to
China etc. (Apparently were walking around $20,000 cash passing it
around to people to buy them for them,…to resell). Around $2000
selling back over. (one customs person I read said one guy had over 20
phones going through to claim back the GST and was holding up the
queue for others,…).
Enjoy your new iPhone! :o))
Kind regards Daniel
Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6)
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On 20/09/2014, at 12:03 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
Hi Daniel,
As we discussed awhile back before ordered my iPhone 6 Plus ;-)) Our
Telstra monthly plans (since we have both been out of the Telstra 2
year contract for some time, is better for both of us!
It's funny how Telstra fail to understand our analogy.... Of course
they don't because they want "_MORE MONEY FROM US BOTH & LOCK US INTO
A TWO YEAR PLAN"_
No Way Telstra say Daniel and Ronni :-)
Cheers, Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4
On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:12 am, Daniel Kerr wrote:
Yes,.I already had Telstra call me to "upgrade" my plan to get a new
iPhone 6 "for free". (and put me back on a 2 year contract).It took me
a while to get them to understand that to get the same features as I
have now, it would cost me $20 extra per month. ($240 per year,..$480
over the 2 year contract). Then take into account I then give my
iPhone 5 to my wife and sell her iPhone 4s 64Gb for around $350-$400
(seems to be what they're going for),…that's a "total" of about $830
minimum. (I won't call it a "saving", as it's not "technically" a
saving per say,…lol. Which is pretty close to the price of an iPhone
6 64GB at $999. So really it pays for itself mostly over that 2 year
period….. I don't think they could follow my maths, (or perhaps my
logic)….lol. I ended up just saying,..thanks I won't worry about
it,..lol.
Now I just have to actually find an iPhone 6 64GB that is in stock
and can be purchased outright. I was going to pre-order but I ummmmed
and arrrrred about the iPhone 6 versus the iPhone 6 Plus. Now I've
read some more reviews and seen them "live" and in videos, I'm sold on
the iPhone 6 standard. It goes into my pocket a lot better. And I
don't think I'll miss the few "extra features" for me anyway.
But they do look like quite a nice phone. (felt sorry for the Perth
guy that just got it and was showing it to the media and it fell out
of his hand as he was getting it out of the box on the pavement.. It's
gone like wildfire around the world showing him doing it. He's on the
Whirlpool "Perth camp out" forum I've been following. He said his
phone is perfect and not marked, so wasn't an issue, bar a bit
red-faced,….lol. Lucky!
Enjoy!
Kind regards Daniel
Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6)
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On 20/09/2014, at 10:54 AM, [email protected] [13] wrote:
Thanks Susan!I followed the link after the video and he writes about
the camera comparisons between 5S and 6. Very interesting!! And
feeding my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expires next
month :) blitto
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This may be of interest. The footage is shot in Iceland.
http://austinmann.com/trek/iphone-6-plus-camera-review-iceland [17]
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