Ok, thanks I will be doing it for her, your comments noted about not doing the 
OSX update till it's sorted.

Regards


Pete

> On 25 Jan 2015, at 11:27 am, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> DON'T attempt to upgrade the operating system until you have the MacBook 
> running perfectly.
> Do the correct Preparation before upgrading to Yosemite, or you will have 
> problems.
> 
> There are other things to look for that cause slowness on a Mac.
> I'll post after your wife has cleaned up the Desktop and filed everything 
> away in the correct locations in her Home Directory (Folders)
> 
> Then if you need information on how to Prepare To Upgrade, post back to the 
> list when your wife has the MacBook running well.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 25 Jan 2015, at 11:00 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for that Ronni,  will do those tidy ups then see how it responds. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Pete. 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Ronni Brown
>> Date:25/01/2015 10:11 (GMT+08:00)
>> To: WAMUG
>> Subject: Re: VERY slow Macbook
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> Very quick reply.... First Thing to Do - Clean Up The Desktop!!! 
>> 6.6GB of video files etc on the Desktop will be slowing the MacBook down.
>> Your wife's MacBook only has 4GB RAM installed so having that amount of 
>> files on the Desktop would be a drain on memory.
>> 
>> Why You Should Keep Your Desktop Clean in OS X 
>> 
>> A desktop is exactly what it sounds like: a place to store temporary 
>> projects. 
>> Once you’re done working on a project, store it in a folder. 
>> 
>> The folder system is really well done on OSX, just go to Macintosh HD > 
>> Users > YourName and you’ll find 9 different folder categories, ranging from 
>> music to documents. Use these folders to store your files. 
>> 
>> Mac OS X considers every icon on your Desktop a window, and because every 
>> window uses additional RAM, more Desktop icons means greater RAM usage.
>> 
>> Keeping your desktop clean is really important because every icon, folder or 
>> alias on it is loaded into the RAM, slowing your system down. 
>> 
>> If there is a certain folder or file you need to access regularly, leave it 
>> where it should be and slide it into the right side of the OSX dock; this 
>> will create a stack, a feature that is incredibly useful.
>> 
>> Your Desktop is actually a Folder. 
>> 
>> It lives at your startup disk, usually called “Macintosh HD” > Users > (your 
>> user name) > Desktop. 
>> The difference is that the desktop folder displays it’s contents on your 
>> desktop as icons. 
>> 
>> These are not your normal icons, because the operating system treats every 
>> icon on the desktop as a window. 
>> And because every window uses additional RAM, more Desktop icons means 
>> greater RAM usage.
>> 
>> So having 100 icons on your desktop is like having 100 windows open at the 
>> same time. 
>> This uses tremendous amounts of system resources and slows everything down.
>> 
>> It’s easy for the desktop to get out of hand. Icons on the desktop are 
>> generally laid out in a grid. 
>> When the grid fills up, the operating system starts to place any additional 
>> icons in the same place, stacking them on top of icon for your start-up 
>> disk! 
>> So now, the problem is getting worse and worse and you don’t even realise it.
>> 
>> The solution is easy: 
>> 
>> Start by creating a new folder on your desktop. (File > New Folder)
>> Name it “Stuff to file”, or something like that. Then, take everything on 
>> your desktop and put it in that folder. 
>> It doesn’t matter how many items are in that folder or how much space those 
>> items take up. 
>> To the operating system, it’s just another window. 
>> 
>> Once you have done that, you should notice an immediate improvement in 
>> performance.
>> 
>> Then Do some house cleaning: 
>> 
>> Start moving things from the “Stuff to file” folder into the proper folders 
>> in your Home Folder: 
>> Documents, Music, Pictures or Movies. 
>> Create sub-folders in those folders, if necessary. 
>> 
>> Then, just keep track of the amount of icons on your desktop. 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> OS X Yosemite 10.10.1
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Jan 2015, at 9:53 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning, my wife's Macbook Pro (13" mid 2012) 4GB memory, running OSX 
>>> 10.9.5 is running very slow and has been for a long time. It has 114GB free 
>>> out of the 499GB hard disc so I don't think that in itself would be a cause 
>>> for immediate concern.
>>> 
>>> She has some large items on her Desktop (video files and lots of other 
>>> extraneous stuff) totalling 6.6GB and a huge amount of Mail. She is a 
>>> prolific emailer. 1500 Inbox and 14,000+ in Sent dating back to 2011. Plus 
>>> additional Mail accounts for kids each ill maintained as well.
>>> 
>>> The thing is, it is slow all the time, whether Mail is running or not. 
>>> 
>>> She uses it for two main things, Mail and Safari for Facebook and general 
>>> web browsing, and eBay for buying stuff.
>>> 
>>> Is there a step by step process for doing some 'housekeeping' clean up and 
>>> decaching of various things that will declutter this thing. It is sooooo 
>>> slow its nearly unusable.
>>> 
>>> I want to update her MBP to Yosemite but would like to do the clean up 
>>> first, maybe update to Yosemite would be a good thing and clean up stuff in 
>>> the process.
>>> 
>>> Tips much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
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