What does it cost?

Kev


> On 4 Sep 2016, at 5:16 pm, Philippe Chaperon <laut...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Neil and Marcus, 
> 
> Indeed, that used to be my biggest problem, remembering my passwords. At one 
> time I had just the one password for the many emails, secure sites, banking 
> etc until I got ‘hacked’ in one of my accounts. 
> 
> From the WAMUG members I learned about a great password manager called 
> 1Password and have been using it ever since. The beauty is that I carry a 
> version of the application on my iPad too and hence have the myriads of 
> passwords, wi-fi included,  all generated by 1Password, handy for when I need 
> them. 
> 
> True, I need my master password to be complex and securely memorised. As Neil 
> said, until some other technology becomes available, I will keep using my 
> trusty application. 
> 
> Best regards to all on this wonderful day. 
> 
> Philippe C. 
> 
> 
> On 4 Sep 2016, at 11:10 am, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com 
> <mailto:n...@possumology.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marcus,
> 
> You were lucky in that somebody was very lax when setting up the router in 
> the first place  ;o)
> 
> 
> It is generally considered very bad practice to leave the router set up with 
> the “default” user name and password (in this case “admin”) - as it lets 
> anyone access your router and, as you found, see the setup – and even change 
> it!
> 
> 
> Of course, if someone HAD set it up securely, with a new ID and PW, you would 
> have needed to know them to see the wifi setup!
> 
> 
> Otherwise you would have been left with a “reset to factory” and then set 
> everything up from scratch again.
> 
> 
> Until biometric security (or some superseding technology) becomes standard, 
> that is the ongoing catch 22 for us all – we need good passwords for security 
> and we are in strife if we forget them!
> 
> 
> Password managers can help – provided you don’t forget the master password!!!
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com <mailto:n...@possumology.com>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 3/9/16 20:23, Marcus F Harris at cryptodo...@me.com 
> <mailto:cryptodo...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni again,
>> Just to let you know that the keychain didn’t reveal the password for the 
>> wifi, probably because the router/wifi is an Asus.
>> Anyway, a colleague was able to tell me how to get into the Asus from the 
>> iMac, whereupon I found the password and all is now ok
>> Maybe for future reference for a WAMUG user,
>> Asus Router/Wifi
>> 192.168.1.1
>> ID admin
>> PW admin
>> wireless page reveals all including password for the wifi
>> cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> cryptodo...@me.com <mailto:cryptodo...@me.com>
>> Marcus F Harris
>> cryptodo...@me.com <mailto:cryptodo...@me.com>
>> iMac 27D Late 2009
>> OS10.9.5
>> 3 GHz Intel Duo Core
>> 8Gb Ram
>> 
>> MACBOOK PRO [2009]
>> PROCESSOR 2.53 GHZ INTEL 2 DUO
>> L2 CACHE 4GB MEM 1067 MHZ DDRS
>> GRAPHICS CARD GEFORCE9400M 256 MB
>> FUJITSU 250GB HD JOURNALED HFS+
>> 
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: Marcus F Harris <cryptodo...@me.com <mailto:cryptodo...@me.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: Resetting wifi password on iPd Mini
>>> Date: 3 September 2016 at 12:12:26 PM AWST
>>> To: WAMUG Mailing List <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>>> Reply-To: wa...@wamug.org.auhi <mailto:wa...@wamug.org.auhi> Ronni
>>> My friend has an iMac and an iPad mini, so I suppose she has an Apple 
>>> Wireless Network.
>>> However her router/wifi is another make so I will check that out later 
>>> today.
>>> I’ll try to recover her password from the keychain first of all.
>>> If that doesn’t work I guess I’ll have to work out how to get into her 
>>> router/wifi.
>>> I’ll let you know.
>>> Thanks very much
>>> 
>>> Marcus
>>> Marcus Harris
>>> P.O. Box 7135
>>> Marcus Harris
>>> Shenton Park
>>> Western Australia 6008
>>> Australia
>>> Cryptodome Pty Ltd
>>> cryptodo...@me.com <mailto:cryptodo...@me.com>
>>> Mob: +61 (0) 417965618
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Sep 2016, at 5:00 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Marcus,
>>>> 
>>>> If it’s a Apple Wireless Network:
>>>> "When you enter a WEP, WPA2, or other encryption key or passphrase in Mac 
>>>> OS X, it’s stored in the Keychain. 
>>>> You can run Keychain Access (found inside /Applications/Utilities/) to 
>>>> delete entries you no longer wish to store or to retrieve passwords that 
>>>> you have forgotten.
>>>> Keychain passwords are secured with your Mac OS X user password."
>>>> 
>>>> If you need to change the Network’s Password:
>>>> Change your Wireless Network’s name and password
>>>> Open AirPort Utility, located in the Utilities folder in the Applications 
>>>> folder.
>>>> In the graphical overview 
>>>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=link&amp;apdid=aprt3bb53acf&amp;viewlocale=en_US&amp;bookId=Airport%20Utility%20HelpPP409
>>>>  
>>>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=link&amp;apdid=aprt3bb53acf&amp;viewlocale=en_US&amp;bookId=Airport%20Utility%20HelpPP409>>
>>>>  , select the base station you want to configure, then click Edit. You may 
>>>> need to enter a password for the base station.
>>>> Click Wireless.
>>>> Do any of the following: 
>>>> Change the wireless network name: Enter a new name in the Wireless Network 
>>>> Name field.
>>>> Change the wireless password: Enter your new password in the Wireless 
>>>> Password and Verify Password fields. 
>>>>   5. If you want the wireless password to be remembered in your OS X 
>>>> keychain 
>>>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=link&amp;apdid=aprt8caccd20&amp;viewlocale=en_US&amp;bookId=Airport%20Utility%20HelpPP409
>>>>  
>>>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=link&amp;apdid=aprt8caccd20&amp;viewlocale=en_US&amp;bookId=Airport%20Utility%20HelpPP409>>
>>>>  , select “Remember this password in my keychain.” 
>>>>   6. To save your changes, click Update.
>>>> 
>>>> If it’s another Wireless Network you will need to supply details for 
>>>> anyone to help.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>>> 
>>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.6
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Sep 2016, at 11:43 AM, Marcus F Harris <cryptodo...@me.com 
>>>>> <mailto:cryptodo...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I’m sure this will have been addressed somewhere in the past, but please 
>>>>> point me to a solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A senior citizen friend has reset her iPad Mini in an attempt to solve a 
>>>>> problem transferring photos on it to her iMac running Maverick OS.
>>>>> That problem prior to reset was a message -“Unable to transfer to Photo 
>>>>> as the device is locked” Her 4 digit password wouldn’t unlock that and 
>>>>> the message kept repeating. Can I come back to that problem later because—
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a result of resetting her iPad Mini, the wifi needs reconnecting, but 
>>>>> she’s forgotten her password.
>>>>> We tried all her passwords, then the codes on the back of the 
>>>>> router/modem without success.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is the only solution to access the router and reset the passord, or is 
>>>>> there a simpler workaround?
>>>>> If I have to reset her modem is that straitforward?
>>>>> 
>>>>> BY THE WAY I don’t think her iPad Mini is right up to date but has iOS 9 
>>>>> something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>> Marcus Harris
>>>>> P.O. Box 7135
>>>>> Marcus Harris
>>>>> Shenton Park
>>>>> Western Australia 6008
>>>>> Australia
>>>>> Cryptodome Pty Ltd
>>>>> cryptodo...@me.com <mailto:cryptodo...@me.com>
>>>>> Mob: +61 (0) 417965618
>>>> 
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