Hi Peter,
I’ve taken the liberty of replying back through the list – it works better to keep these discussions “on list” as lots of others find these issues interesting too. So, a couple more comments: I actually preferred Snow Leopard as the last OS where Apple & I seemed to be on the Same page ;o) - However I found that more & more services I relied on would no longer work – eg Dropbox, which is essential for me, is no longer is compatible with Snow Leopard – so I needed to upgrade. You do have another option – cheaper than a new laptop/computer – to move as far as El Capitan whilst still being able to work with your legacy apps and that is to buy an external drive and set it up as a boot drive. By being able to boot into Snow Leopard or El Capitan, as required, you can continue to work with your legacy apps on Snow Leopard and move forward to El Capitan to get used to the changes and access services/sites/apps that no longer work in Snow Leopard. This is an approach that I use – in my case I HAVE updated MS Office and spend over 90% of my time in El Capitan – however, I still have a bootable clone of my old Snow Leopard system which I occasionally boot into as required – eg to do some image editing on my old Photoshop Elements app. In my case I actually replaced my failed internal drive with a new 3TB internal drive and also fitted an SSD so I setup my old SL clone on a separate partition on the internal drive – however I expect that the internal drive on your old iMac(s) are much smaller so an external drive would be the way to go. You basically have two different ways to do this, depending on how you see yourself working: Clone your existing Snow leopard system to an external drive and update the computer to El Capitan – this is the way to go to move forward to the new OS but still be able to reboot into SL to use your old Office & Adobe apps. Keep the computer running Snow Leopard but setup the external drive as a bootable El Capitan drive – this allows you to carry on as before but boot into El Capitan whenever you need to access services/sites/apps that no longer work in Snow Leopard. Given how cheap external drives now are this will let you use old and new systems as you want/need. Just a thought. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [email protected] From: Peter Faulks <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, 19 June 2019 at 08:14 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Upgrading many thanks Many thanks Neil, I really do a lot of work using Office 2004 and Adobe CS3 which I am comfortable with, so I do not think I will upgrade my computer, I will just continue as I am and let technology go its own way, or purchase a lap top for the new operating systems. I did think it would be a complete restart so now I know, thanks to you, I will just have to survive as I am. Cheers Peter Hi Peter, I just went through a similar exercise (but with the added complications of a hardware rebuild/upgrade). I have a few comments: · Whatever you do - make sure you have everything backed up!! Personally, as a minimum I would have both a bootable clone of the HD AND a full Time machine backup (some would say that is a bit over the top). Hopefully your upgrade will go smoothly but, if it doesn't, you need a full up to date backup to avoid losing precious data. · I went to El Capitan - OSX 10.11 - I think that this is also as far as you can go on a 9.1 model iMac · The last version of El Capitan is OSX 10.11.6 - so this is where you will want to end up. · Whilst El Capitan will run on only 4GB of RAM, I would definitely recommend a RAM upgrade for much better performance - on a model 9.1 iMac you could go to 8GB max - see https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/iMac/DDR3_2009 · You will be unlikely to do this without needing to upgrade some software - best to check what versions you have, what versions your new system will require and your preferred upgrade path before you start. · I have never used Eudora so I can be of no help there. · If you are running MS Office 2011, I think that this will still run on El Capitan. · I had to update MS Office from my old Office 2004 and I decided to go with an office 365 subscription - I wanted Outlook included, I wanted to run on 3 computers and I could use the 1TB of online storage included. · It is much cheaper to buy an Office 365 subscription from Officeworks < https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/microsoft-office-365-home-up-to-6-people-12-months-download-mof365hesd> than direct from Microsoft ($99 vs $129) - when your renewal is due you can also renew much cheaper by buying another Office 365 subscription from Officeworks and then applying that to renew your existing subscription. · Jumping from MS Office 2004 direct to Office 2016/Office 365 was problematic in a few areas. I found that my Office 365 subscription also allowed me to download Office 2011 and for some tasks/documents going from Office 2004 to Office 2011 before moving to Office 2016/Office 365 gave a good workaround to some problems. That's probably enough to think about for now ;o) HTH Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [email protected] From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Faulks <[email protected]> Reply-To: WAMUG <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, 18 June 2019 at 12:48 To: WAMUG <[email protected]> Subject: Upgrading mac 10.6 to newer version We have 2 older Macs OSX 10.6.8 (purchased from Daniel a few years ago) But as pensioners we do not wish to purchase new Macs, but feel we need to upgrade our operating system, can anyone advise on the best way to do this without losing our or having to upgrade our Eudora email or Microsoft office and other applications? OR what are the implications because we have photos, files, games and records stored that we need to access. Hardware Overview: Model Name: iMac Model Identifier: iMac9,1 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 6 MB Memory: 4 GB Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz Boot ROM Version: IM91.008D.B08 SMC Version (system): 1.36f3 Serial Number (system): WQ9050FJ0TF Hardware UUID: 0B8662FA-4D6C-5E43-8003-03E5FF3FC085 May thanks Peter & Irene -- Peter & Irene Faulks Unit 1, 9 Newsam Close PARKWOOD Western Australia 6147 Phone: +618 9457 0747 (h) Peter Mobile: 0416 187 937 Irene Mobile: 0439 933 404 Email: [email protected] Web Page: http://www.peterfaulks.net/ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify your system manager. 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