A quick Google search tells me:
“The Bull Creek area is known as Gabbiljee in Nyoongar, which means
'watery place at the end of the river'.“
And
“ Friends of Gabbiljee is an active group of volunteers hoping to
restore the waterway and surrounding bush along Bull Creek.”
Tim Law
On 7 Aug 2022, at 10:35 pm, WAMUG via WAMUG
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Just curious Wendy.
What is that last sentence about ?
Looks like something from “Lord of The Rings”
On 7 Aug 2022, at 6:58 pm, WAMUG via WAMUG
<[1][email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Peter for your detailed explanation
I appreciate the issues; complex indeed.
Cheers
Wendy
Friends of Gabbiljee respectfully acknowledges that it is located
on
the land of the Whadjuk Noongar people.
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Re: [WAMUG] NO GENERAL MEETING this Tuesday, 2 August.
On 3 Aug 2022, at 5:06 pm, Western Australia Macintosh User Group
via WAMUG <[5][email protected]> wrote:
Hi Maureen (and I guess this goes to All?)
I’d like to contribute something to your conversation when you
discuss
the future of the group.
I haven’t been a member for very long, nor a good attendee, but I
have
found most of the topics to be aspects that I don’t use and never
see
myself using, or are too advanced. But I do need help with
numerous
MacBook/phone things and I do like learning new or better ways of
doing
the things that I do.
I appreciate there is probably a core of the group that loves
learning
the latest. I don’t really know what I am trying to say except
that I
would be a more frequent attendee if I knew the topic was
something
that I would use.
Is it worth looking at a completely different format?
1. Public libraries have reinvented themselves over the past 10
years. I used to belong to a group that taught English to
non-English speakers and we would meet on a one-on-one basis at a
library within Melville It worked beautifully. I’m not sure how
this sort of thing is accepted now but worth looking into?
1. Perhaps some of us who have retired could meet informally at a
public library and learn from each other? Only open to members of
the group? To reduce travel it could be at various libraries
2. Or perhaps the Chairperson/President could come up with the
topic
and then someone could put his/her hand up to lead that topic at a
public library? I think that is similar to what is happening now
except the venue isn’t at a library.
3. Or something like our Repair Cafes that are popping up. There
could be multiple tables and on one day in a month there could be
an ‘expert’ on a topic at each table. Hmm that may not suit the
advanced group.
I’m sure there are other models. I think it would be a shame for a
self-help community group with a very long history to die.
Best wishes
Wendy
The problems facing WAMUG are much more far-reaching than simply
coming up with interesting topics for the monthly meetings
(although
that is difficult enough!).
WAMUG has an ageing population, so the willingness to leave a
warm
home on a cold winter's night, or air conditioning on a
sweltering
summer’s night, reduces every year. Even before Covid-19 struck,
our
monthly meetings attracted very small numbers - generally the
committee plus 4 or 5 others.
Covid made public meetings unviable in the early days on the
pandemic so we reverted to the online format using Zoom, and we
have
even fewer attendees as a result.
The topic of Topics is a hot one. As long as I have been involved
with computer User Groups (going back to the mid-1980s when I
started WAppleII, an Apple II user group) I have been asking the
memberships to suggest interesting topics for "the next meeting”.
It
has almost always resulted in a deafening silence, so it’s
generally
left to those of us running things to come up with the ideas.
Using
this list to contribute ideas would be a good start, and while
that
has happened occasionally, the opportunity to explore the ideas
fully is always hampered by the small attendances.
The suggestion of holding the meetings at one or more public
libraries is a terrific one. The one huge problem remains
however:
getting people to attend, for all of the reasons already outlined
and more. We have a committee of 5, the membership of which
hasn’t
changed for at least 10 years, and which fails to attract new
nominees year after year with every AGM.
It’s not just WAMUG experiencing these problems. The Queensland
group Apple-Q, for example, almost died in March for similar
reasons. I could go on and on about all of this, and I don’t want
to
turn this into a lengthy essay, but the bottom line for the
survival
of any group is always its membership. It may be that WAMUG ends
up
as just the mailing list, but even that will need administration
at
a certain level. Personally I would hate to see this happen, but
unless we can attract new blood and new energy to the group it
seems
our eventual demise is inevitable, and will happen sooner rather
than later. The suggestion of moving away from regular monthly
meetings to less regular but more focussed ones is an attempt to
stimulate more interest, but as always, we need active
participation
from the membership to make them worthwhile.
Wendy’s contribution is a good start. While it is true that the
growth and continuing increase in sophistication of the Internet
have tended to reduce the relevance of computer user groups in
recent times, people of like mind and with similar interests
still
like to come together to share them. The Zoom meetings are OK,
but
we humans are social animals, and it’s impossible to reproduce
virtually the vital social interaction required to keep a group
like
WAMUG alive.
I’ll leave it there. It’s a complex issue and one which needs a
heap
more discussion
Kind regards,
Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482 Mob 0403 046 948
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