Thanks as always Daniel for your response

I tried the SMC reset by holding down the power button for ten seconds, then a 
normal restart push. No change. 

It is a late 2013 Retina. The anti reflective coating has gone off the screen 
but a plastic film has resurrected it and I can work with it as it is. 

The $299 was the price Apple gave me on the service website. It did say 
‘estimate’ 😳

The PC software I use from Time to time is Oziexplorer for digital mapping. I 
have satisfactory alternatives, but don’t want to give it up if I don’t have to

The other is Peugeot workshop manual and OBD2 port reader software. This is 
pretty handy to have to read and reset engine codes and I have hardware that 
goes with it so am reluctant to give it up. 

I’ll check out my other options as you’ve suggested and will contact you off 
list for second hand machines if I need to go that path. 

Thanks again

Tim Law

> On 29 Sep 2022, at 11:29 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG <wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim
> 
> On a new Apple Silicon machine you’ll have a bit of a nightmare getting 
> VMWare to work - as we tried to do one for another client and it was a 
> nightmare. You definitely can’t use the same “VM File” you have - you have to 
> start from scratch. (And it will only work with a insider developer’s copy of 
> Windows 11 for ARM - you can’t actually buy Windows for it).
> I did set up Parallels with Windows 11 ARM for a couple of clients on a new 
> Apple Silicon iMac and got it work. But we had to set it from scratch. And 
> some things are a little different then normal - so programs apparently don’t 
> work as well in Windows ARM as they do for other. So that’s just something to 
> be aware of as well.
> 
> Have you tried an SMC reset as well if it’s not starting up. As generally 
> even if the battery has failed it still should run on power adapter. (Unless 
> the battery has swollen and is causing other issues as well).
> 
> Battery prices can vary - depends on if it’s a Early 2013 13” or a Late 2013 
> 13” (Retina). As the batteries for the Retina can be a nightmare to do. (I 
> don’t even do the Retina’s myself for some models - as it’s just too fiddly 
> and risky the way they are “glued in”.
> 
> So just something to be wary of.
> Other option would be something second hand - as that’s what I’ve got for 
> some other clients - which was a bit cheaper than new and still Intel so 
> still worked with all their current software - but a bit more up to date.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
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>> On 29 Sep 2022, at 11:17 am, Tim Law via WAMUG <wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning
>> 
>> A1502 late 2013 MacBook Pro. Still suitable for purpose. 
>> 
>> Couple of days ago I got a ‘service required’ warning saying the battery was 
>> at the end of its life. Now the machine won’t start up, even if the power 
>> supply is plugged in. Interestingly the power charger brick is not at all 
>> warm, indicating no charge going in but the little orange light on the 
>> magnetic plug is on. 
>> 
>> Apple website estimates $299 to replace the battery. A new M2 costs $2000
>> 
>> I use VMware Fusion to run two native PC apps and it works as I require so 
>> I’m hesitant to upgrade in case that stops functioning. 
>> 
>> Do I just get the battery replaced or replace the machine?. I have a feeling 
>> it’s no longer supported for OSX upgrades. 
>> 
>> Wise thoughts appreciated. 
>> 
>> Tim Law
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