You will be receiving a letter from my attorneys as soon as they research
your address over this slanderous note. You called me by name in a public
forum accused me of sexual deviancy and other assorted slanderous things and
I intend to be compensated by you for this! I'm going to squeeze you until
your dry Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "rod/christine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:04 AM
Subject: RE: {W&P} SV: SV: SV: SV: SV: Common Sense
>
>
> Claes Persson wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rod/christine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 4:38 PM
> > Subject: RE: {W&P} SV: SV: SV: SV: Common Sense
> >
> >
> > Rod wrote answering Al:
> > > ===
> > >
> > > Sheez, should they come to your state and chop down EVERY tree?
Better
> > > forest management would be to let the forest burn when it is nature
> > > doing it (lightning).
> > >
> > > The "weekend" camper (female no less!) who started the Sequoia one in
> > > California was a nutjob for even playing with a lighter or matches!
> > > What the hell was she thinking? Must have been a public school
> > > education, huh? - you think so?
> > >
> > > So much of the western part of USA is owned by the gov't (public
lands)
> > > and managed quite poorly over the years. I don't think it can be
blamed
> > >
> > > on the "leftists" (whatever that means). We are near the Little
> > > Missouri National Grasslands - and it is "fairly well" managed, but
> > > always is back-and-forth - depending on whether a Jimmy Carter (goofy)
> > > or a Ronny Reagan (senile) is inhabitating the Executive Branch.
> > >
> > > Up here, it is the levels of the six main-stem dams, that hold the
> > > waters of the upper parts (States) of the Missouri River that are
bones
> > > of contention. It all depends on the winter snow packs in Montana -
the
> > >
> > > past couple years have been way below normal - bigtime! The lower
parts
> > >
> > > (States) want the water for barge traffic (navigation) and the upper
> > > parts (States) want it for irrigation and tourism. They generate
> > > electricity too! The rivers are losing all their native fish
species -
> > > they are "locked" into the areas between the dam sites.
> > >
> > > The Indian Tribes lost prime bottomlands (many, many beautiful trees
> > > too) when the water began backing up. When the barges (1830's) first
> > > began coming up the Missouri and needed firewood to power the barges -
> > > the trees (forests) along the river were chopped down and never
> > > replaced... so all the animals had no "cover" (nesting) and many
species
> > >
> > > simply went extinct!
> > >
> > > My opinion is that chopping down entire forests is sheer stupidity.
> > > Better management would be to maybe take 5-10 percent of the forest
and
> > > leave the rest intact. Another 10 years or so, and come an take a
> > > different portion of the forest. It could be done without the gov't
> > > always building roads at taxpayer expense!
> > >
> > > Helicopters are a cost-efficient way of selectively taking out trees -
> > > one-by-one. This is taking place in parts of Idaho, Montana,
> > > Washington, British Columbia, etc. I'm sure it is done in other parts
> > > of the world (earth) too.
> > >
> > > Finally, the Hemp Plant is the answer to the paper problem. But the
> > > rightwingers are afraid that some kids might smoke some - and go crazy
> > > and have to be put on Ritalin. The Hearst Corporation (newsprint) is
> > > always putting out scare stories on marijuana (maryjane) & twisting it
> > > wit hemp as being some sort of devils weed, and such nonsense. Such
is
> > > the life and times in 21st century America.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rod
> > >
> >
> > I think that this is quite a good analysis of the problem. As far as US
> > goes. The terrible thing is that deforresting is going on world wide and
> > in a scale that's horyfying. South America (the Amazon Basin) All the
> > islands like Sumatra, Jawa and the others are deforeted in a terrible
> > speed without any atempt to replant. The different kind of animals
> > dependent on the rainforrest, from Orangutang and down the scale of
> > developement, like birds, lizzards and all the insects soon have nowhere
> > to hide. Many of those living things are not even discovered yet, and we
> > will never konow what we are missing. Many of the plants are maybe
> > hiding substances good for making medecine for humans. Nature has
> > usually already the solution to most problems, It has been around much
> > longer than the humans, but we will never know as they will be extinct,
> > due to greedy forresters before we can find them.
> >
>
> ===
>
> My family lived for a year and few months in the Amazon. A childhood
> friend of the wife & i (not us!) became "religious" and became a
> missionary for some religious church group. We were asked to "come on
> down" and build a school, a few houses, plumbing work, solar & wind
> generators erected etc. so on and so forth.
>
> The Brazilian gov't has snipers who go deep into the jungles and
> assassinate the "native indian tribes" - elders and young boys and
> girls. Disrupt their mode of living that has been built up over the
> thousands of years - where it ends? - when the last indian has been
> wiped off the face of the earth. So much for property rights!
>
> ===
>
> > All this is done by deforresting, taking all and leave nothing to
> > protect the ground out of greed, and as you say, Ron, it's stupid, but
> > the mighty short time proffit rules. Your idea of taking 10% is old and
> > was practised here in Sweeden for many years. But the proffit suffer.
> > It's complicated. Then they found that there was better proffit of strip
> > forresting a piece at the time. However the planting of new trees have
> > been done. If they don't take care of replanting the state comes down on
> > them like a ton of bricks. The landscape looks funny, but is not left un
> > attended, at least.
>
> ===
>
> Hemp is the answer. Big business doesn't want to hear about it though.
> On a different note - notice that "Sweeden" is spelt with two e's - tis
> is how it was when i was a kid growing up. (do we ever want to
> completely grow up?) ha.
>
> ===
> >
> > I'm always hoping that people will get more and more intelligence, but
> > sometimes I think that people are just getting dumber. I'm no genius but
> > I still feel lonely. To be a genius must be a very lonley life. It seems
> > that the rule for too many of the forresters is: Big bucks to day fast
> > and as easy as possible, after us - who cares.
> >
>
> ===
>
> Biodiversity makes the world go round - humans and animals! When the
> last beehive is sprayed with paraquat & the last antpile has been
> torched - guess the asteroid in 2019 will be of little consequence. (sad
> face inserted)
>
>
> Rod
>
>
> .
>
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