Cool.  It wasn't clear to me that that was available.

On May 24, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Paul Lindner wrote:

> You can clone the apache git mirror and send pull requests that way.  It's a
> little more work for the committer but it is doable.
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Perry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I'm watching this project (still) from a very distant perspective.  I think
>> Dan's thoughts are very real.
>> 
>> I tend to contribute to many open source projects from GCC to Ruby, etc etc
>> etc.
>> 
>> There is nothing more beautiful than a github pull request to a person like
>> me.  I can pull down a repo, make my change, and make my pull request and
>> not get bogged down with tons of unproductive ick.  And I bet from the
>> receiving side, it is equally pleasant.  I know that I'm going to resist
>> long and hard doing changes with a SVN base.
>> 
>> I might be the only person like this but I suspect I'm not.  You might want
>> to review the contributors to Rails 3 and notice how many contributors make
>> only one or two changes.
>> 
>> I know that Apache wants you to do SVN but having a way to do git and git
>> pull requests I believe will be worth the work.
>> 
>> On May 24, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Yuri Z wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree with James.
>>> 
>>> 2011/5/24 James Purser <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>>> Honestly I think our best bet is to go with the Apache SVN setup until
>> such
>>>> time as Apache git is available.
>>>> 
>>>> Saves a massive amount of faffing around
>>>> 
>>>> 2011/5/24 Daniel Danilatos <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bruno mentioned a good idea and I'd like to share my thoughts on this
>>>>> matter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My impression so far is that everyone here prefers to use git; so, why
>>>>> not just use it and then have a job that immediately mirrors commits
>>>>> to the master branch straight into SVN. That way we still get all the
>>>>> integration with the rest of the tools, and get to use a source
>>>>> control system that meets the needs and wishes of the community. I am
>>>>> willing to do the leg work to get things set up, if it helps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I dare say it, using a distributed VCS like git also has the
>>>>> advantages of cross-pollination with other services and groups. The
>>>>> ability to clone the whole repository and make significant changes
>>>>> with the knowledge that merging back in is feasible significantly
>>>>> lowers the barrier for people to experiment, try things out, share,
>>>>> etc. This would be in my opinion a great boon to our efforts to
>>>>> attract interest, contributions, and build this community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best of both worlds?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Στις 24 Μαΐου 2011 4:12 π.μ., ο χρήστης Michael MacFadden
>>>>> <[email protected]> έγραψε:
>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I realize that people view git and mercurial as the "to be state" for
>>>>> source control and that going to SVN is probably seen as a step
>> backward
>>>>> from where we are today.  I happen to largely agree personally.  That
>>>> being
>>>>> said, I think we should just bite the bullet and move to SVN.  The
>>>> reality
>>>>> is that it is not going to kill us.  Hopefully apache will move to HG
>> or
>>>> Git
>>>>> sooner than later.  If we feel strongly about it, maybe we could
>>>> volunteer
>>>>> to help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ~Michael
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 23, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Upayavira wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would not recommend that. There is no timescale applied to this -
>> it
>>>>>>> could be six months, it could be two years, depending upon volunteer
>>>>>>> efforts.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wave should aim to go straight to SVN. If Git is available later,
>> then
>>>>>>> maybe a switch can be arranged.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Upayavira
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:43 +0300, "Yuri Z" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Great news!
>>>>>>>> Maybe then it worth to wait with code migration...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2011/5/23 Paul Lindner <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apache is working on a way to officially support git:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/projects/git/THE-PLAN-SO-FAR
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you want git instead of svn then I'd suggest helping get the
>>>>> outstanding
>>>>>>>>> tickets resolved.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Ali Lown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I don't see anyway for apache to setup a git
>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>> Their whole system is based around SVN. The best they seem to be
>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>> to offer is a git mirror[0]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [0]:http://git.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/23 Daniel Danilatos <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>> I like the hg->git part! :)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Στις 23 Μαΐου 2011 2:43 π.μ., ο χρήστης Yuri Z <
>> [email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> έγραψε:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding hg->svn migration:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was lately investigating how to proceed with It and it seems
>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>>> way is first to convert from mercurial to git, and then from git
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> svn.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are the links: hg->git
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://hivelogic.com/articles/converting-from-mercurial-to-git/
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> http://hivelogic.com/articles/converting-from-mercurial-to-git/
>>>>>> git
>>>>>>>>> ->
>>>>>>>>>> svn
>>>>>>>>>>>> : http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/ImportingFromGit
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/22 Michael MacFadden <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that we are rolling on Jira, I think it's time to start
>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrating to the apache SVN.  Can we set a goal timeframe for
>>>>> this?
>>>>>>>>> To
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this I would recommend any one who is working on a large
>>>>> outstanding
>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in their own workspace to try to wrap those up.  We probably
>>>> want
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> fairly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stable and complete snapshot to move over to avoid disrupting
>>>>> peoples
>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'll also need to think about how we handle code reviews since
>>>>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ReviewBoard set up by default.  Some have voiced a preference
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> sticking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Rietveld.  I suppose this is an option, however we might
>>>> need
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the review site off of waveprotocol.org since that site will
>>>>>>>>>> eventually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be for WiaB development.  We should compare and contrast
>>>>> Review
>>>>>>>>>> Board as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.  Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Paul Lindner -- [email protected] -- linkedin.com/in/plindner
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> James Purser
>>>> Collaborynth
>>>> http://collaborynth.com.au
>>>> Mob: +61 406 576 553
>>>> Wave: [email protected]
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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