John, Others may clarify more, but it was my understanding that the wave protocol was not to come over to Apache - Apache only received a partial implementation, Wave in a Box.
So you'd certainly be right that the protocol itself hasn't moved at Apache - that hasn't been the remit here. I believe they have a google group for discussing the protocol itself, but not sure how active that list is. The Apache Wave project is focused around producing an implementation of the protocol. HTH! Upayavira On Sat, May 25, 2013, at 12:31 PM, John Blossom wrote: > Christian, > > Thanks for the information. I was addressing Yuri directly as a starting > point, since I am unfamiliar with anyone else who has been active on the > Wave incubator code. I do understand the general structure of Apache. > What > I am trying to understand more clearly is whether the Apache organization > as a whole governs the Wave incubator project or whether there is a > subset > of contributors who govern it. Trademark issues are certainly understood. > > I am glad to contribute requirements specifications and review, though my > coding days are pretty well past. My main concern is that the Wave > specification has not progressed under Apache and no longer reflects the > goals that Wave should be able to undertake in a mobile-first Web. I > would > like to encourage developers to step forward to work towards that goal. > To > that extend, the "third party" is simply other developers and enthusiasts > who need to communicate with Apache more actively to help determine how > best to move forward with Wave. I am taking that step on a non-commercial > basis, in the hopes that we can develop a code base that will result in > robust, interconnected commercial and non-commercial products and > services. > Presumed goodwill should be the order of the day for everyone in this > process. > > All the best, > > John Blossom > > email: [email protected] > phone: 203.293.8511 > google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom > > > On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Hello John, > > > > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:37 PM, John Blossom <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am a member of WaveWatchers, a group of enthusiasts who remain devoted > > to > > > the concept of Wave and its future. I am trying to get a hand as to the > > > coordination of Apache Wave today. Yuri Zelikov, I know that you remain > > > active in the coding of projects in the Incubator community, and that > > > you've done a lot through the years to keep Wave-in-a-Box on the map. > > But I > > > am not sure of the structure of how your efforts fit into the bigger > > > picture. > > > > First off, the Apache Software Foundation is a group of volunteers > > doing projects together. > > At Apache Wave, there are more people to be considered active and so > > it would be wrong > > to just only ask Yuri. > > > > For more information on the ASF, please read: > > > > * www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html > > > > Please also note that the Incubator is a kind of meta project for > > hosting other projects > > which want to come to the ASF. > > > > That said it would be good if you could explain what you mean with > > "bigger picture". > > > > > I'd be grateful for an update from any and all concerned. I and others > > are > > > interested in re-architecting Wave for more full-blown implementation and > > > propagation. > > > > Surely, you and your fellows are invited to join the project on the > > dev list and discuss > > changes to the Apache Wave protocol. Please note, so far I see the > > term "Apache Wave" > > is a trademark of the Apache Software Foundation. Developing another > > "Wave" protocol > > outside of this project might make lead to trademark confusion and > > need to be discussed > > more in detail. > > > > While it is surely to our all benefit to join forces, it needs to be > > clear that this project > > is not necessary required to implement the specifications of a third > > party. This being > > said, it is better to discuss your proposed changes here, on the > > developer mailing list. > > > > All the best, > > Christian > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > John Blossom > > > > > > email: [email protected] > > > phone: 203.293.8511 > > > google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.grobmeier.de > > https://www.timeandbill.de > >
