Theres also the need for a Wave client/server protocol standard (akin to what POP3 or IMAP is for email), that seems to be in a limbo for a very long time. As someone very eager to work on native mobile clients, this has been a hold up. No one can make mobile clients at the moment without also running their own server.
-Thomas Wrobel (Interested 3rd party..) ~~~ Thomas & Bertines online review show: http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :) On 25 May 2013 15:05, Upayavira <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > > Others may clarify more, but it was my understanding that the wave > protocol was not to come over to Apache - Apache only received a partial > implementation, Wave in a Box. > > So you'd certainly be right that the protocol itself hasn't moved at > Apache - that hasn't been the remit here. I believe they have a google > group for discussing the protocol itself, but not sure how active that > list is. > > The Apache Wave project is focused around producing an implementation of > the protocol. > > HTH! Upayavira > > > > On Sat, May 25, 2013, at 12:31 PM, John Blossom wrote: > > Christian, > > > > Thanks for the information. I was addressing Yuri directly as a starting > > point, since I am unfamiliar with anyone else who has been active on the > > Wave incubator code. I do understand the general structure of Apache. > > What > > I am trying to understand more clearly is whether the Apache organization > > as a whole governs the Wave incubator project or whether there is a > > subset > > of contributors who govern it. Trademark issues are certainly understood. > > > > I am glad to contribute requirements specifications and review, though my > > coding days are pretty well past. My main concern is that the Wave > > specification has not progressed under Apache and no longer reflects the > > goals that Wave should be able to undertake in a mobile-first Web. I > > would > > like to encourage developers to step forward to work towards that goal. > > To > > that extend, the "third party" is simply other developers and enthusiasts > > who need to communicate with Apache more actively to help determine how > > best to move forward with Wave. I am taking that step on a non-commercial > > basis, in the hopes that we can develop a code base that will result in > > robust, interconnected commercial and non-commercial products and > > services. > > Presumed goodwill should be the order of the day for everyone in this > > process. > > > > All the best, > > > > John Blossom > > > > email: [email protected] > > phone: 203.293.8511 > > google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom > > > > > > On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Hello John, > > > > > > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:37 PM, John Blossom <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > I am a member of WaveWatchers, a group of enthusiasts who remain > devoted > > > to > > > > the concept of Wave and its future. I am trying to get a hand as to > the > > > > coordination of Apache Wave today. Yuri Zelikov, I know that you > remain > > > > active in the coding of projects in the Incubator community, and that > > > > you've done a lot through the years to keep Wave-in-a-Box on the map. > > > But I > > > > am not sure of the structure of how your efforts fit into the bigger > > > > picture. > > > > > > First off, the Apache Software Foundation is a group of volunteers > > > doing projects together. > > > At Apache Wave, there are more people to be considered active and so > > > it would be wrong > > > to just only ask Yuri. > > > > > > For more information on the ASF, please read: > > > > > > * www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html > > > > > > Please also note that the Incubator is a kind of meta project for > > > hosting other projects > > > which want to come to the ASF. > > > > > > That said it would be good if you could explain what you mean with > > > "bigger picture". > > > > > > > I'd be grateful for an update from any and all concerned. I and > others > > > are > > > > interested in re-architecting Wave for more full-blown > implementation and > > > > propagation. > > > > > > Surely, you and your fellows are invited to join the project on the > > > dev list and discuss > > > changes to the Apache Wave protocol. Please note, so far I see the > > > term "Apache Wave" > > > is a trademark of the Apache Software Foundation. Developing another > > > "Wave" protocol > > > outside of this project might make lead to trademark confusion and > > > need to be discussed > > > more in detail. > > > > > > While it is surely to our all benefit to join forces, it needs to be > > > clear that this project > > > is not necessary required to implement the specifications of a third > > > party. This being > > > said, it is better to discuss your proposed changes here, on the > > > developer mailing list. > > > > > > All the best, > > > Christian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > > John Blossom > > > > > > > > email: [email protected] > > > > phone: 203.293.8511 > > > > google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.grobmeier.de > > > https://www.timeandbill.de > > > >
