Christian is referring to CAORBtqwYOCXJK3r2QqFhqP+YQ0fas_m4U0oHX7AZiswm6CwPyQ
By 'search the archives' - yes, you can sometimes use Google for the task. But sometimes, it is easier to simply manually look through them for a subject that describes what you are searching for. (In this case 'email bridge bot'). Ali On 1 December 2013 17:00, Frank R. <renfeng...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the response. But, I don't think it can be a trivial task to > find the old mails. Because all the key words I can think of are too > commonly seen: wave, mail list, communication. > > e.g. site:mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-commits/ > communication - Google > Search<https://www.google.com/search?espv=210&es_sm=119&q=site%3Amail-archives.apache.org%2Fmod_mbox%2Fincubator-wave-commits%2F+communication&oq=site%3Amail-archives.apache.org%2Fmod_mbox%2Fincubator-wave-commits%2F+communication&gs_l=serp.3...5525.10115.0.10476.21.17.4.0.0.1.424.2205.8j3j4j0j1.16.0.starcuni...0...1.1.32.serp..21.0.0.wFjSHgW9WHU> > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Christian Grobmeier > <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On 1 Dec 2013, at 15:35, Frank R. wrote: >> >> Perhaps, we can have a temporary robot, say incubator-bot, to publish >>> waves >>> for a wave in a box server back to the mail list. That should be too >>> difficult to have. >>> >> >> Please search older mails in the archive. Somebody actually did some work >> in that direction >> >> >> >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> christian, from my observations of the project i would have to answer no, >>>> its not working out ? >>>> >>>> pardon my passion on this subject (@mailing list) but ive kept quiet for >>>> too long. id rather get an argument started on this rather then let wave >>>> die the slow death that it is currently facing. passion is what wave >>>> needs >>>> right now, not patience. >>>> >>>> i dont think moving wave to github or getting everyone to actually use >>>> wave >>>> will magically make everything better, but i think that is a step in the >>>> right direction that Should have been taken a long time ago. >>>> >>>> theres no reason that moving discussion to a wave server reduces the open >>>> nature of the discussion, as stated previously, its trivial to make an >>>> anonymous account to grant anyone access to this discussion if it was on >>>> a >>>> wave server. also anyone can register on a wave server and participate in >>>> the discussion if the wave has been setup properly, theres even a patch >>>> somewhere for rendering wave files as html files which would make it >>>> searchable by google and everyone esle. federation should make >>>> propogating >>>> this data to multiple servers possible, using wave as the main discussion >>>> area maintains the openness , searchability, and also longevity of the >>>> discussion. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Christian Grobmeier < >>>> grobme...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 Nov 2013, at 16:40, Fleeky Flanco wrote: >>>>> >>>>> i really dont understand why i have to be explaining the usefullness of >>>>> >>>>>> using wave to communicate with the people on this list. its kindof >>>>>> amazing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> If you don't understand why we operate on a mailing list then you >>>>> >>>> probably >>>> >>>>> have >>>>> not understood that the ASF tries to develop in an open way. All >>>>> discussions must held >>>>> public and must be archived for a long time. The only solution so far is >>>>> mailing lists. >>>>> Wave is simply not that far to provide that at the moment. >>>>> >>>>> Of course there is an opportunity to bring Wave to the ASF. But there >>>>> are >>>>> a lot of requirements >>>>> to meet. If you want to develop here, you need to fulfill these >>>>> requirements. >>>>> >>>>> We have discussed that several times. Every of the committers understood >>>>> these requirements >>>>> and were working against them. However Wave is not there yet. >>>>> >>>>> This doesn't answer the question which was initially asked: is the ASF >>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>> right place? >>>>> Or more precise: can we as a project ever succeed the incubator and >>>>> >>>> become >>>> >>>>> an ASF project? >>>>> >>>>> This has nothing to do with the great technology behind Wave nor the >>>>> willingness of people. >>>>> It is: is there enough manpower to live the ASF way or not. >>>>> >>>>> Christian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> fleeky >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Robert Brumbelow < >>>>>> >>>>> rkbrumbe...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fleeky, those are fine for us, they will do little for outside >>>>>> >>>>>>> exposure. I would suspect having to use wave in order to learn to use >>>>>>> wave might be self defeating. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/ >>>> Building+Wave+in+a+Box >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Home >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> also there is #wiab on irc.freenode.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> also Ali just a few emails up mentioned that you could start a >>>>>>>> discussion >>>>>>>> on his wave server , why not try those things first? and if there is >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> a >>>> >>>>> problem, go to Ali's wave server and simply start a problems wave add >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> participant @domain to the wave and everyone inclduing Ali on that >>>>>>>> server >>>>>>>> should be able to see your problem wave, and maybe attempt to answer >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -fleeky >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Robert Brumbelow < >>>>>>>> rkbrumbe...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thomas, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hangouts on air are the recorded versions of Google Hangouts, >>>>>>>>> they are streamed and recorded via Youtube. Screencasts, I thought, >>>>>>>>> also defaulted to being recorded. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I know during my years of teaching, video was often preferred by >>>>>>>>> students simply because even in step by step instruction, aka hand >>>>>>>>> holding, there would be something glossed over, ignored or assumed >>>>>>>>> known by students or the teacher. Video shows every keystroke, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> command >>>> >>>>> and mouse movement >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Kelly Brumbelow >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>> @grobmeier >>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> --- >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> @grobmeier >> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>
