Hi, I agree with the dependency hell issue and the suggestion for throwing away the GWT client. This would require a new client-server API as suggested, however I think a Rest API won't be enough, because real editing needs websocket.
I also agree with Michael, developing a new editor is a massive task, so we should use an existing one and plug it in the new API. To write again the server in other language would be great, but I think it requires a huge effort. I will be happy to help in decoupling the server-client, I can provide the experience from my fork. And I plan to send some patches to Wave soon. These are some slides about my fork (swellrt) it could give you some ideas: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1WFDS_m7eyNjBjcdPs0zH496Y9bMSl0_JnSEYGjxNFn0/edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18hMYyECo5EmQsrAb8DT6SkO7LksWVJnhdZmqeCsar4c/edit?usp=sharing btw, I would like to start a business providing these SwellRT services. 2016-03-14 23:27 GMT+01:00 Joseph Gentle <m...@josephg.com>: > I've been playing with the idea of starting a company around a rewrite of > wave for years. > > -J > > On Tuesday, 15 March 2016, Adam Bielski <a_biel...@ymail.com.invalid> > wrote: > > > Hiya all!I wish I could find out who is potentially interested in > creating > > the WAVE for a commercial service/productwith my seed startup!Cheers! > > Adam > > > > 20:23 poniedziałek, 2016-3-14, Zachary Yaro <zmy...@gmail.com > > <javascript:;>> napisał(a): > > > > > > I am inclined to agree with Yuri—if the alternative implementation can > be > > developed in parallel around the same protocol, that would seem to be the > > best scenario, but the existing codebase should be kept because it is > > (AFAIK) the most functional implementation of the protocol. > > > > Zachary Yaro > > On Mar 14, 2016 15:05, "Yuri Z" <vega...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > > > I think that more "wavy" projects are nice, but IMO it doesn't mean we > > > should abandon Apache Wave as it is now. I agree there are a lot of > > issues > > > with current code, but I think there's still value as people can see > what > > > Wave can potentially be. > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:46 AM Evan Hughes <wisebald...@apache.org > > <javascript:;>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > The link for those who wish to join, Ill also add this link onto the > > new > > > > website. > > > > > > > > https://www.hipchat.com/gsModF8CY > > > > > > > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 at 12:12 Michael MacFadden < > > > > michael.macfad...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yeah. Chatting is fine and beneficial. We just need to make sure we > > > > > capture key decisions and rationale back in the list for all to > see. > > > > > > > > > > ~Michael > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 12, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Evan Hughes <wisebald...@apache.org > > <javascript:;>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not so as Ive seen other projects state this motto "If > its > > > not > > > > on > > > > > > the mailing list it didnt happen at all", but allows for non > formal > > > > talk > > > > > > and back and forth discussion realtime. The Monthly reports that > we > > > > > talked > > > > > > about back when we did the hangout session should probably be > > picked > > > up > > > > > > again, ill add it to the monthly todo's. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 at 11:58 Michael MacFadden < > > > > > michael.macfad...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> One follow up question though. Does hip hat store conversations > > in a > > > > > >> publicly accessible manner? If not, we need to make sure key > > > > decisions > > > > > >> that come out of chats are captured and discussed on the mailing > > > list > > > > > for > > > > > >> all to see. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ~Michael > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Evan Hughes < > wisebald...@apache.org > > <javascript:;>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I would get infra to make us a hipchat channel so we have some > > > place > > > > to > > > > > >>> talk casually web interface / irc, but seesm the jira's down. > > > Looking > > > > > to > > > > > >>> getting this rolling in some way or another by mid week. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ~ Evan > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 at 19:48 Evan Hughes < > > wisebald...@apache.org <javascript:;>> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> The client-server protocol would define a protobuf and json > rest > > > > > >> services > > > > > >>>> so any language that support protocol buffers would be able to > > > make > > > > a > > > > > >>>> client or fallback to the json rest. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 at 19:24 Andreas Kotes < > > > > > >> count-apache....@flatline.de <javascript:;>> > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> FWIW, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I also consider the idea pretty good and would want stronger > > > > > decoupling > > > > > >>>>> of server/client. I'd be interested in a python client > > > > > implementation, > > > > > >>>>> mostly for CLI and bot integration. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Not sure whether doing a client-side C implementation of the > > > > > >>>>> communication protocol would be best here (so wrapper for > more > > > > > >> languages > > > > > >>>>> can follow), or whether native Python would be better. We > need > > > > > >> something > > > > > >>>>> for non-Java folks in any case, I think. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Cheers, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> count > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:52:34AM +1000, Evan Hughes wrote: > > > > > >>>>>> Thankyou all for your feedback and expressions of interests, > > > seems > > > > > >> like > > > > > >>>>> we > > > > > >>>>>> may be able to develop some teams together to make this a > > faster > > > > > >> reality > > > > > >>>>>> than just I. Hopefully we can get some more people to > express > > > > > >> interests > > > > > >>>>> in > > > > > >>>>>> this way forward. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> -- > > > > > >>>>> Andreas 'count' Kotes > > > > > >>>>> Taming computers for humans since 1990. > > > > > >>>>> "Don't ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come > alive, > > > and > > > > > go > > > > > >> do > > > > > >>>>> it. > > > > > >>>>> Because what the world needs is people who have come alive." > -- > > > > > Howard > > > > > >>>>> Thurman > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
