Yay! I made some changes to Robot class in order to filter non human originating events - and I could make a working Echoey robot! Thanks for the robot APIs patch! I guess my change to Robot code looks ugly, but if you want to look at it I can send a patch.
On Oct 30, 11:27 am, Vega <[email protected]> wrote: > Would be interesting though, to make the robot decide on which events > it wants to act. If robot could specify it capabilities.xml that it > wants to receive events from robots x,y,z ... Could be a great > improvement over Google Wave implementation. > > On Oct 30, 12:39 am, Lennard de Rijk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Vega <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I tried to make an admin "robot" that would allow to reset passwords. > > > After applying [0] I could make some code that can react on > > > OnDocumentChange event and modify the document back, however the > > > message send by robot kept bouncing back and forth replicating itself, > > > probably RobotConnector should check who sent the message before > > > forwarding it to robot (probably should not react on events generated > > > by non-humans) > > > That's what the TODO in RobotsGateway is for :). > > > Greetings, > > Lennard > > > > [0]http://codereview.waveprotocol.org/221001/diff/1/4 > > > > On Oct 29, 11:57 am, Vega <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ohh. I intended to use Echoey code as example off course and extend > > > > AbstractAgent. Is there an example of working robot? > > > > > On Oct 29, 9:20 am, Alex North <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Depending what you mean by "agent-based", please avoid using the code > > > in > > > > > box.server.agents. That code is earmarked for deletion; it was a rush > > > job > > > > > and does things in an ugly way. Its presence significantly hampers > > > other > > > > > development. We're only leaving it around to support the "echoey" > > > > > agent > > > > > which is the only way to tell you've successfully federated with > > > acmewave. > > > > > As soon as we've ported echoey to a robot we intend to delete the > > > > > code. > > > > > > You could build new code talking to the c/s protocol - with code > > > > > review > > > I'm > > > > > optimistic we can do it right this time. > > > > > > A. > > > > > > On 29 October 2010 17:58, Vega <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > It seems to me that agent based password reset mechanism is pretty > > > > > > simple. I ll try to implement it and see if it gets more complex > > > > > > that > > > > > > I thought. > > > > > > > On Oct 29, 2:04 am, Alex North <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 29 October 2010 10:44, Vega <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hmm, I don't see a way how "password reset mechanism" can be > > > outside > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > authenticated world. Admin should be authenticated into > > > > > > > > something > > > (DB > > > > > > > > at least). > > > > > > > > Sorry, I wasn't very clear. Yes, admins should be authenticated > > > when > > > > > > > administering the user database. > > > > > > > > Any self-password-reset mechanism would need to be unauthenticated > > > (but > > > > > > then > > > > > > > rely on some other verification system, like sending an email to a > > > known > > > > > > > address). > > > > > > > > > If you want the most simple wavy password reset mechanism - do > > > > > > > > it > > > with > > > > > > > > agent. > > > > > > > > -Invite agent into wave. > > > > > > > > -Issue password reset command > > > > > > > > -Agent has the access to users accounts, so it can check if the > > > user > > > > > > > > is authorized for such action, if so - it resets the password. > > > Cannot > > > > > > > > be simpler than that and easy to implement - and still wavy. > > > > > > > > I love your passion for implementing things the wavy way! > > > Experience has > > > > > > > taught me that it's more complex than you make it out, though. > > > > > > > > > On Oct 29, 1:26 am, Alex North <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I happen to agree with Vega that hosting profile information > > > > > > > > > in > > > Wave > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > many advantages. However I disagree just on one piece: the > > > login > > > > > > > > > information. I do think the username and password need to > > > > > > > > > be manageable outside of Wave itself. They provide kind of a > > > minimal > > > > > > > > > bootstrapping environment you need. First you get a username > > > and > > > > > > > > password, > > > > > > > > > then you can log into Wave. > > > > > > > > > > Clearly the password reset mechanism needs to be outside of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > authenticated world. I think it's simplest to put basic > > > password > > > > > > > > management > > > > > > > > > (changing your password when you already know it) outside of > > > waves > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > Building data models in Wave is nice and flexible, but it's a > > > lot of > > > > > > > > > overhead for something as basic as login credentials. > > > > > > > > > > In many cases, authentication will be delegated to some other > > > system, > > > > > > > > LDAP > > > > > > > > > for example. We're just trying to implement something basic > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > groups > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > don't have such a system. > > > > > > > > > > On 29 October 2010 05:03, Vega <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The advantage is obvious - you have everything in one place. > > > > > > Another > > > > > > > > > > advantage - the Wave environment - it means an option for > > > > > > extension. > > > > > > > > > > For example you can create a simple profile wave. Then you > > > (or some > > > > > > > > > > 3rd party) can add extension that would import user info > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > facebook > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 28, 1:03 pm, x00 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Even if you have a gadget, you still need an interface to > > > do the > > > > > > > > > > > management. 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