Hi,

even the federation demo during the workshop failed because of some XMPP
madness :-) It is simply too complicated to setup and use and not as widely
deployed as XMPP-enthusiasts might believe.

Furthermore, Wave is mainly sending base64 encoded ProtoBufs via XMPP. If
you look very very closely at the current wave protocol, you will find out
that wave (ab-)uses XMPP as a very dump transportation protocol. Except for
discovery, there is little that XMPP provides to wave besides shipping bytes
from A to B. So the "out of the box functionality" argument is not really
true IMHO.

To underpin my argument: For the HTTP federation protocol we just had to
re-do the discovery. Everything else is basically unchanged. The fact that
we could replace XMPP with HTTP rather easily shows that wave did not make
any usage of specific XMPP features. XMPP is not good as a general purpose
transport protocol. HTTP is.

Greetings
Torben



2010/11/17 Dave butlerdi <[email protected]>

> I really am having a difficult time understanding the aversion to XMPP. It
> adds so much
> functionality out of the box, is widely accepted and brings with it a large
> number of
> potential adopters.
>
> Why not just get the project up as close to what was there and then sub
> project the other transports.
>
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> Regards
>
> Dave Butler
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