One of the issue for us at Novell Vibe, is that it's not trivial, or even easy, 
to integrate our
user access control with existing XMPP infrastructure products - causing some 
gaps that we weren't
fond of.  Along with this, XMPP was additional infrastructure that requires 
both hardware resources
and expertise, adding to the complexity and cost of deployment (rather than 
utilizing existing HTTP
infrastructure).

/Ian

On 11/17/2010 07:35 AM, Dave butlerdi wrote:
> Perhaps, however some of us have substantial development efforts that, at 
> least in our case,
> leverage XMPP. In the end it really does not matter what decisions are taken 
> and several
> protocols may be developed/deployed/available however there has been effort 
> using the XMPP proto.
> 
> Secondly, I have a difficult time understanding the difficulty in setting up 
> and integrating XMPP
> servers. If this truly is a problem would it not be wise just to clean this up
> making it substantially easier for non XMPP folks ?
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dave Butler
> 
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