if your wave server enabled federation - then you can just add the
robot to the wave, just as it was regular participant

On Nov 20, 11:13 pm, DanielS <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Alex,
>
> I'm looking forward to persistence and having a look at a raw wave
> document. Also the ability to cycle through the histories - this was
> one of waves best features.
>
> My remaining questions relate to the robot API, which as I understand
> it is already implemented in WIAB. How would I go about adding the
> example echoey robot to a local wave?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel
>
> On 20 nov., 04:08, Alex North <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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> > Hi Daniel,
>
> > Thanks for your interest! I have some answers below but please let me know
> > if you'd like more detail on particular areas.
>
> > On 19 November 2010 14:13, DanielS <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi all,
>
> > > I'm trying to get a grips with what all the code does, and am hoping
> > > you guys can help simplify things (time is a big constraint at the
> > > moment). I apologize if they are stupid questions, my understanding of
> > > WIAB is very superficial at the moment and I'm finding the already
> > > large code base quite intimidating.
>
> > > My main questions are:
>
> > > 1) Wave persistence - what's the main problem here and why hasn't it
> > > been implemented? My current understanding is that a wave is basically
> > > an xml document. What object contains all the information for the wave
> > > and what is the challenge in saving that to a file?
> > > * I see now that the title of the waves are saved but you get an error
> > > when trying to open it...
>
> > "XML" document is far too much of a simplification. The persisted state of a
> > wave includes it's entire history, comprising the operations that got it
> > into its current state.
>
> > Persistence is non-trivial because the server must make guarantees about the
> > consistency of the data. A server typically needs to persist more useful
> > forms of the data than just the delta history (e.g. the current snapshot)
> > and ensuring those representations stay in sync is again not trivial.
>
> > It's coming along though, mostly implemented.
>
> > > 2) A lot of the work seems to be on getting federation working... Is
> > > most of the federation code kept separate? What would WIAB look like
> > > without federation (a stripped down version)?
>
> > WIAB works just fine without federation. We could probably do more to
> > separate out the federation code but if you don't want to federate, the
> > potential of federation shouldn't hold you back.
>
> > 3) Is there a detailed object diagram going around, with the real
>
> > > class names and how they are all related? Maybe there is an eclipse
> > > plugin or something I don't know about to generate this...
>
> > No, sorry. The codebase is just too complex, and too rapidly changing, for
> > anyone to have attempted something like that. But the talks from our recent
> > summit might help you get an idea of what's going on:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wavesummit&search=tag
>
> > In particular, if you'll excuse me nominating some of my own talks, WIAB
> > Architecture <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDPBnmRDkag>, Wave
> > Model<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZqpeFydq4A>,
> > and Wave Server <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dbDhmX2v6E>.
>
> > Hope that helps,
> > Alex
>
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