What are the required steps to register/add the example echoey robot
without federation.

The root url seems to be in /war/ so do i need to put the path to
echoey (../src/org/....) when i register?


On 21 Nov., 12:37, James Purser <[email protected]> wrote:
> In order for you to be able to add a Robot to a wave it either has to be
> registered with the local wave server or with a remote federated server.
>
> If you're talking about registering Robots with your own wave server, no
> that doesn't rely on federation.
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> James
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> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:42 PM, DanielS <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Ah ok, I didn't know about the robot/register/create path
>
> > Is it not independent from federation? I mean that shouldn't make a
> > difference to a robot should it?
>
> > On 21 nov., 00:05, Soren Lassen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Well, that depends. You cannot reach a robot with an @appspot.com or
> > > @googlewaverobots.com address by federation, because Google doesn't
> > > run federated wave servers for those domains.
>
> > > You can run your robot on appspot.com and then register it with your
> > > own wave-in-a-box instance. For instance, if you're running a robot at
> > > example-wave-robot.appspot.com and a wave-in-a-box server at
> > > example.com:9898 then go to
>
> > >http://example.com:9898/robot/register/create
>
> > > to register your robot with the the example-wave-robot.appspot.com URL.
> > > (Disclaimer: I tried this just now on the acmewave.com and couldn't
> > > make it work. Someone with a better grasp on this, please check if my
> > > instructions are correct.)
>
> > > Soren
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> > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > if your wave server enabled federation - then you can just add the
> > > > robot to the wave, just as it was regular participant
>
> > > > On Nov 20, 11:13 pm, DanielS <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> Thanks Alex,
>
> > > >> I'm looking forward to persistence and having a look at a raw wave
> > > >> document. Also the ability to cycle through the histories - this was
> > > >> one of waves best features.
>
> > > >> My remaining questions relate to the robot API, which as I understand
> > > >> it is already implemented in WIAB. How would I go about adding the
> > > >> example echoey robot to a local wave?
>
> > > >> Cheers,
>
> > > >> Daniel
>
> > > >> On 20 nov., 04:08, Alex North <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >> > Hi Daniel,
>
> > > >> > Thanks for your interest! I have some answers below but please let
> > me know
> > > >> > if you'd like more detail on particular areas.
>
> > > >> > On 19 November 2010 14:13, DanielS <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >> > > Hi all,
>
> > > >> > > I'm trying to get a grips with what all the code does, and am
> > hoping
> > > >> > > you guys can help simplify things (time is a big constraint at the
> > > >> > > moment). I apologize if they are stupid questions, my
> > understanding of
> > > >> > > WIAB is very superficial at the moment and I'm finding the already
> > > >> > > large code base quite intimidating.
>
> > > >> > > My main questions are:
>
> > > >> > > 1) Wave persistence - what's the main problem here and why hasn't
> > it
> > > >> > > been implemented? My current understanding is that a wave is
> > basically
> > > >> > > an xml document. What object contains all the information for the
> > wave
> > > >> > > and what is the challenge in saving that to a file?
> > > >> > > * I see now that the title of the waves are saved but you get an
> > error
> > > >> > > when trying to open it...
>
> > > >> > "XML" document is far too much of a simplification. The persisted
> > state of a
> > > >> > wave includes it's entire history, comprising the operations that
> > got it
> > > >> > into its current state.
>
> > > >> > Persistence is non-trivial because the server must make guarantees
> > about the
> > > >> > consistency of the data. A server typically needs to persist more
> > useful
> > > >> > forms of the data than just the delta history (e.g. the current
> > snapshot)
> > > >> > and ensuring those representations stay in sync is again not
> > trivial.
>
> > > >> > It's coming along though, mostly implemented.
>
> > > >> > > 2) A lot of the work seems to be on getting federation working...
> > Is
> > > >> > > most of the federation code kept separate? What would WIAB look
> > like
> > > >> > > without federation (a stripped down version)?
>
> > > >> > WIAB works just fine without federation. We could probably do more
> > to
> > > >> > separate out the federation code but if you don't want to federate,
> > the
> > > >> > potential of federation shouldn't hold you back.
>
> > > >> > 3) Is there a detailed object diagram going around, with the real
>
> > > >> > > class names and how they are all related? Maybe there is an
> > eclipse
> > > >> > > plugin or something I don't know about to generate this...
>
> > > >> > No, sorry. The codebase is just too complex, and too rapidly
> > changing, for
> > > >> > anyone to have attempted something like that. But the talks from our
> > recent
> > > >> > summit might help you get an idea of what's going on:
>
> > > >> >http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wavesummit&search=tag
>
> > > >> > In particular, if you'll excuse me nominating some of my own talks,
> > WIAB
> > > >> > Architecture <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDPBnmRDkag>, Wave
> > > >> > Model<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZqpeFydq4A>,
> > > >> > and Wave Server <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dbDhmX2v6E>.
>
> > > >> > Hope that helps,
> > > >> > Alex
>
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