Hi STenyaK,

You're correct. It is a simple process, but also the incubator mailing list
is the official mailing list. Non-binding votes of support / interest are
helpful, but need to be on the Apache incubator mailing list.

If you want your vote to be recognized by the Apache incubator community,
even as a non-binding vote, you need to send it to
[email protected].

To subscribe to the Apache incubator mailing list: send a message to
general-subscribe at incubator dot apache dot org

You can see if your vote has shown up on the Apache incubator mailing list
by visiting the archive:
http://apache.markmail.org/message/v2c4cnewpczdxzny?q=VOTE+wave+accept+list:org.apache.incubator.general+order:date-backward&page=4
[as of now, many people have voted on only wave-protocol, so those votes
weren't "seen" by Apache]

Regards,
-Dan

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:40 AM, STenyaK <[email protected]> wrote:

> Out of curiosity, do these textual "+1" votes actually count, is the
> apache incubator vote process this simple?
> If so, I'm guessing the reply emails should be addressed also to the
> incubator mailing list, not just the wave-protocol one, right?
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 08:09, Jeff Forsyth <[email protected]> wrote:
> > +1
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Jack Park <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> +1
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Dan Peterson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>> Please vote on the acceptance of Wave into the Apache incubator.
> >>> The proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> >>> (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
> >>> The earlier discussion thread can be found
> >>> at:
> http://apache.markmail.org/message/3ebtccdxvipp2732?q=general%40incubator.apache.org+list:org.apache.incubator.general+order:date-backward&page=2
> >>> The vote options:
> >>> [ ] +1 Accept Wave for incubation
> >>> [ ] +0 Don't care
> >>> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
> >>> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> -Dan
> >>> Apache Wave Proposal (Apache Incubator)
> >>> = Abstract =
> >>> Apache Wave is the project where wave technology is developed at
> Apache.
> >>> Wave in a Box (WIAB) is the name of the main product at the moment,
> which is
> >>> a server that hosts and federates waves, supports extensive APIs, and
> >>> provides a rich web client. This project also includes an
> implementation of
> >>> the Wave Federation protocol, to enable federated collaboration systems
> >>> (such as multiple interoperable Wave In a Box instances).
> >>> = Proposal =
> >>> A wave is a hosted, live, concurrent data structure for rich
> communication.
> >>> It can be used like email, chat, or a document.
> >>> WIAB is a server that hosts waves. The best analogy for this is a mail
> >>> server with a web client. WIAB is comprised of a few high-level
> components:
> >>> the client and the server. They have the following major functionality
> >>> (though this is not an exhaustive list):
> >>>  * Client
> >>>   *A dynamic web client for users to create, edit, and search waves.
> Users
> >>> can access this client by directly visiting the server in a browser.
> >>>   * Gadgets provide the ability to insert, view, and modify the UI --
> >>> exposing the Wave Gadgets API
> >>> (http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html)
> >>>   * A console client that can create and edit waves via a
> command-line-like
> >>> interface.
> >>>  * Server
> >>>   * Hosts and stores waves. WIAB comes with a default storage
> mechanism. The
> >>> administrators of the server may configure it to use alternative
> storage
> >>> mechanisms.
> >>>   * Indexing, allowing for searching the waves a user has access to.
> >>>   * Basic authentication, configurable to delegate to other systems.
> >>>   * Federation, allowing separate Wave in a Box servers to communicate
> with
> >>> each other using the Wave Federation Protocol
> >>> (http://www.waveprotocol.org/federation).
> >>>   * Robots, using the Wave Robots API,
> >>> (http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/) may interact
> with
> >>> waves on a WIAB instance.
> >>> = Background =
> >>> Wave expresses a new metaphor for communication: hosted conversations.
> This
> >>> was created by Lars and Jens Rasmussen after observation of people's
> use of
> >>> many separate forms of communication to get something done, e.g, email,
> >>> chat, docs, blogs, twitter, etc.
> >>> The vision has always been to better the way people communicate and
> >>> collaborate. Building open protocols and sharing code available in an
> open
> >>> and free way is a critical part of that vision. Anyone should be able
> to
> >>> bring up their own wave server and communicate with others (much like
> SMTP).
> >>> We hope this project will allow everyone to easily gain the benefits of
> Wave
> >>> with a standard implementation of Wave – in a box.
> >>> = Rationale =
> >>> Wave has shown it excels at small group collaboration when hosted by
> Google.
> >>> Although Wave will not continue as a standalone Google product, there
> is a
> >>> lot of interest from many organizations in both running Wave and
> building
> >>> upon the technology for new products.
> >>> We are confident that with the community-centric development
> environment
> >>> fostered by the Apache Software Foundation, WIAB will thrive.
> >>> = Initial Goals =
> >>> The initial goals of the project are:
> >>>  1.  To migrate the codebase from code.google.com and integrate the
> project
> >>> with the ASF infrastructure (issue management, build, project site,
> etc).
> >>>  1.  To quickly reach a state where it is possible to continue the
> >>> development of the Wave In a Box implementation under the ASF project.
> >>>  1.  To add new committers to the project and grow the community in
> "The
> >>> Apache Way".
> >>> = Current Status =
> >>> The open source Wave in a Box project has existed in various forms for
> >>> approximately 16 months (starting out life as the FedOne open source
> >>> project).
> >>> FedOne began in July 2009 in order to accelerate adoption of the wave
> >>> federation protocol, and serve as a proof of concept that a non-Google
> >>> implementation of the wave federation protocol could interoperate with
> the
> >>> Google production instance. It worked. FedOne's existence lead to a
> >>> prototype by Novell that demonstrated federation between Google Wave
> and
> >>> Novell Pulse (now known as Vibe). In addition, in May of 2010, SAP
> unveiled
> >>> a prototype version of SAP StreamWork that federated with both Novell
> Pulse
> >>> and Google Wave. All three systems interoperated, sharing real-time
> state,
> >>> and gadget updates. In May 2010 Google released significantly more code
> >>> (including the cross-browser rich text editor) to connect with other
> >>> components that were built from scratch, resulting in a simple web
> client.
> >>> The project has grown over the last year to include many Google and
> >>> non-Google contributions.  The project has picked up steam in recent
> months
> >>> as the direction of the standalone Google Wave product has shifted.  At
> this
> >>> time the Wave in a Box project enjoys very active development, with new
> >>> features and functionality being added almost daily. The first Wave
> Protocol
> >>> Summit was recently held and included developers from a variety of
> >>> countries, companies, and organizations.
> >>> The code base is a mixture of mature core code from Google Wave, and
> >>> somewhat immature integration code forming WIAB. WIAB is quickly
> becoming
> >>> highly functional and is already in a very "demoable" state.  The
> >>> development mailing lists are  very active indicating wide community
> >>> support.  We recognize that now is a good time to migrate to the Apache
> >>> Foundation while the codebase and community is a manageable size.
>  Assuming
> >>> the current momentum continues, we expect strong growth in the code and
> >>> community in the near future.
> >>> == Meritocracy ==
> >>> The initial set of committers includes many Google employees, and there
> is
> >>> an active and growing community outside Google contributing to WIAB
> already
> >>> today. Google culture itself encourages meritocracy, and the community
> has
> >>> always grown – and will continue to grow – in this fashion.
> >>> As shown by the initial committers list below, several members from
> outside
> >>> of Google have already demonstrated interest, skill, and commitment to
> >>> contributing to the project.  These individuals have been recognized on
> >>> those merits by the initial committers.  Their selection as the first
> wave
> >>> of new committers is a sign of the burgeoning meritocracy.
> >>> == Community ==
> >>> Wave currently has a healthy community around waveprotocol.org, with
> >>> conversations hosted at http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol.
> We
> >>> plan to move this community to the Apache Software Foundation
> incubator.
> >>> == Core Developers ==
> >>> The initial committers comes from a variety of backgrounds and includes
> many
> >>> from Google. There are a few existing Apache committers amongst this
> initial
> >>> group.  We anticipate early future committers coming from places like
> >>> Novell, SAP, companies related to the US Navy's usage of wave, startups
> in
> >>> the wave ecosystem, and many independent individuals.
> >>> == Alignment ==
> >>> The developers of WIAB want to work with the Apache Software Foundation
> >>> because Apache has proven to provide a strong foundation with good
> >>> infrastructure and support for developing projects in an open
> community.  As
> >>> WIAB continues to grow, the community will look to both reuse available
> >>> Apache projects as well as look for opportunities to contribute back to
> the
> >>> larger Apache community.
> >>> = Known Risks =
> >>> == Orphaned products ==
> >>> Wave is a new means for communication, and thus it is still maturing.
> While
> >>> the initial implementation (Google Wave) did not gain sufficient
> traction
> >>> for it to continue as a standalone Google product, there are other
> related
> >>> projects (e.g. Novell Vibe, SAP StreamWork), and several startups in
> the
> >>> space that are continuing to build on the technology. In addition, the
> US
> >>> Navy has contracted with four companies as part of evaluating using
> wave
> >>> technology on every ship. The community itself is still growing, with
> >>> several new contributors recently added.
> >>> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> >>> The initial committers have varying degrees of experience with open
> source
> >>> projects. Many from the community are familiar with open source.
> >>> == Homogeneous Developers ==
> >>> The initial set of developers does include many from Google. However,
> the
> >>> project has accepted many patches from independent individuals, and
> some
> >>> have already gained committership. Several companies have expressed
> interest
> >>> and forty individuals participated in the Wave Summit.
> >>> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
> >>> Following Google's change of focus for Wave in August, some of Wave's
> Google
> >>> developers have chosen to continue working on Wave, but it is
> imperative
> >>> that we continue to grow the community larger in the coming months.
> >>> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
> >>> We currently use the following libraries from Apache
> >>>  * Commons CLI
> >>>  * Commons Codec
> >>>  * Commons HttpClient
> >>>  * Commons Logging
> >>>  * Velocity
> >>>  * Ant
> >>> We've also contributed the Wave Gadget implementation into the Apache
> >>> Shindig project.
> >>> = Documentation =
> >>> Entry point for documentation of all the specs and designs.
> >>> http://waveprotocol.org/
> >>> Wave Robots API
> >>> http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/
> >>> Wave Gadgets API
> >>> http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html
> >>> = Initial Source =
> >>> The initial source will come from
> >>> http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/source/browse/. This consists
> of the
> >>> Java code necessary for the client and server. These are already open
> source
> >>> repositories licensed under the Apache Public License.
> >>> = Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan =
> >>> Beginning with the initial unveiling, Google published a liberal patent
> >>> license:
> >>> Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Google and its
> >>> affiliates hereby grant to you a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive,
> >>> no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable (except as stated in this License)
> >>> patent license for patents necessarily infringed by implementation of
> this
> >>> specification. If you institute patent litigation against any entity
> >>> (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit) alleging that
> the
> >>> implementation of the specification constitutes direct or contributory
> >>> patent infringement, then any patent licenses for the specification
> granted
> >>> to you under this License shall terminate as of the date such
> litigation is
> >>> filed.
> >>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/patent-license
> >>> == Trademarks ==
> >>> Google retains all rights to the trademarks "GOOGLE WAVE" and the wave
> >>> design logo, neither of which will be used in the Apache Wave project.
> >>> = External Dependencies =
> >>> In addition to the previously mentioned Apache dependencies, the
> initial
> >>> code relies on the following libraries that have Apache compatible
> licenses:
> >>> antlr, aopalliance, asm, bouncycastle, cglib, dom4j, emma, gson, guava,
> >>> guice, gwt, gxp, hamcrest, jackson, jdom, jetty, jline, jmock,
> joda_time,
> >>> jsr305, junit, libidn, mockito, mongo-driver, oauth, protobuf,
> >>> protobuf-format-java, protostuff, stringtemplate, websocket, whack,
> xpp3
> >>> = Cryptography =
> >>> We use standard crypto library methods available in java.security.*.
> Wave
> >>> federation plans to uses encryption for sending deltas to remote Wave
> >>> servers.
> >>> = Required Resources =
> >>> ==  Mailing lists ==
> >>>  * wave-dev
> >>>  * wave-commits
> >>>  * wave-private
> >>> It is possible that if the project does grown to include many sub
> project
> >>> that we would split the mailing list up by sub project.  Again we have
> >>> flexibility.
> >>>
> >>> == Subversion Directory ==
> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wave
> >>> == Issue Tracking ==
> >>> Please help us setup a JIRA instance for both issue tracking and code
> >>> review.
> >>> == Other Resources ==
> >>>  * a wiki (for the sites pages)
> >>> (http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html or a wiki
> >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/)
> >>>  * code review on reviews.apache.org
> >>>  * a server to run a dogfood instance
> >>>  * continuous build bot
> >>> = Initial Committers =
> >>>  * Alex North (Google)
> >>>  * Anthony Watkins (SESI)
> >>>  * Christian Ohler (Google)
> >>>  * Dan Danilatos (Google)
> >>>  * Dan Peterson (Google) / [email protected]
> >>>  * David Hearnden (Google)
> >>>  * David Wang (Google)
> >>>  * Ian Roughley (Novell) / [email protected]
> >>>  * James Purser
> >>>  * Joseph Gentle
> >>>  * Lennard de Rijk
> >>>  * Michael MacFadden (Solute)
> >>>  * Soren Lassen (Google)
> >>>  * Tad Glines
> >>>  * Torben Weis (University Duisburg-Essen)
> >>> = Sponsors =
> >>> == Champion ==
> >>>
> >>>  * Paul Lindner
> >>> == Nominated Mentors ==
> >>>  * Santiago Gala
> >>>  * Upayavira
> >>>  * Andrus Adamchik
> >>>  * Vincent Siveton
> >>>  * Ben Laurie
> >>> == Sponsoring Entity ==
> >>> The Apache Incubator.
> >>>
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