Anyone can vote. Binding votes are from the individuals on the Apache
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On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:56 PM, James Purser <[email protected]>wrote:

> Just out of curiosity are non apache members allowed to vote or is it
> restricted (I'm thinking the latter, just want to make sure)
>
> James
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Dan Peterson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi STenyaK,
>>
>> You're correct. It is a simple process, but also the incubator mailing
>> list is the official mailing list. Non-binding votes of support / interest
>> are helpful, but need to be on the Apache incubator mailing list.
>>
>> If you want your vote to be recognized by the Apache incubator community,
>> even as a non-binding vote, you need to send it to
>> [email protected].
>>
>> To subscribe to the Apache incubator mailing list: send a message to
>> general-subscribe at incubator dot apache dot org
>>
>> You can see if your vote has shown up on the Apache incubator mailing list
>> by visiting the archive:
>> http://apache.markmail.org/message/v2c4cnewpczdxzny?q=VOTE+wave+accept+list:org.apache.incubator.general+order:date-backward&page=4
>> [as of now, many people have voted on only wave-protocol, so those votes
>> weren't "seen" by Apache]
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:40 AM, STenyaK <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Out of curiosity, do these textual "+1" votes actually count, is the
>>> apache incubator vote process this simple?
>>> If so, I'm guessing the reply emails should be addressed also to the
>>> incubator mailing list, not just the wave-protocol one, right?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 08:09, Jeff Forsyth <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > +1
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Jack Park <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> +1
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Dan Peterson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> Hi everyone,
>>> >>> Please vote on the acceptance of Wave into the Apache incubator.
>>> >>> The proposal is available at:
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
>>> >>> (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
>>> >>> The earlier discussion thread can be found
>>> >>> at:
>>> http://apache.markmail.org/message/3ebtccdxvipp2732?q=general%40incubator.apache.org+list:org.apache.incubator.general+order:date-backward&page=2
>>> >>> The vote options:
>>> >>> [ ] +1 Accept Wave for incubation
>>> >>> [ ] +0 Don't care
>>> >>> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
>>> >>> The vote is open for 72 hours.
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> -Dan
>>> >>> Apache Wave Proposal (Apache Incubator)
>>> >>> = Abstract =
>>> >>> Apache Wave is the project where wave technology is developed at
>>> Apache.
>>> >>> Wave in a Box (WIAB) is the name of the main product at the moment,
>>> which is
>>> >>> a server that hosts and federates waves, supports extensive APIs, and
>>> >>> provides a rich web client. This project also includes an
>>> implementation of
>>> >>> the Wave Federation protocol, to enable federated collaboration
>>> systems
>>> >>> (such as multiple interoperable Wave In a Box instances).
>>> >>> = Proposal =
>>> >>> A wave is a hosted, live, concurrent data structure for rich
>>> communication.
>>> >>> It can be used like email, chat, or a document.
>>> >>> WIAB is a server that hosts waves. The best analogy for this is a
>>> mail
>>> >>> server with a web client. WIAB is comprised of a few high-level
>>> components:
>>> >>> the client and the server. They have the following major
>>> functionality
>>> >>> (though this is not an exhaustive list):
>>> >>>  * Client
>>> >>>   *A dynamic web client for users to create, edit, and search waves.
>>> Users
>>> >>> can access this client by directly visiting the server in a browser.
>>> >>>   * Gadgets provide the ability to insert, view, and modify the UI --
>>> >>> exposing the Wave Gadgets API
>>> >>> (http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html)
>>> >>>   * A console client that can create and edit waves via a
>>> command-line-like
>>> >>> interface.
>>> >>>  * Server
>>> >>>   * Hosts and stores waves. WIAB comes with a default storage
>>> mechanism. The
>>> >>> administrators of the server may configure it to use alternative
>>> storage
>>> >>> mechanisms.
>>> >>>   * Indexing, allowing for searching the waves a user has access to.
>>> >>>   * Basic authentication, configurable to delegate to other systems.
>>> >>>   * Federation, allowing separate Wave in a Box servers to
>>> communicate with
>>> >>> each other using the Wave Federation Protocol
>>> >>> (http://www.waveprotocol.org/federation).
>>> >>>   * Robots, using the Wave Robots API,
>>> >>> (http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/) may interact
>>> with
>>> >>> waves on a WIAB instance.
>>> >>> = Background =
>>> >>> Wave expresses a new metaphor for communication: hosted
>>> conversations. This
>>> >>> was created by Lars and Jens Rasmussen after observation of people's
>>> use of
>>> >>> many separate forms of communication to get something done, e.g,
>>> email,
>>> >>> chat, docs, blogs, twitter, etc.
>>> >>> The vision has always been to better the way people communicate and
>>> >>> collaborate. Building open protocols and sharing code available in an
>>> open
>>> >>> and free way is a critical part of that vision. Anyone should be able
>>> to
>>> >>> bring up their own wave server and communicate with others (much like
>>> SMTP).
>>> >>> We hope this project will allow everyone to easily gain the benefits
>>> of Wave
>>> >>> with a standard implementation of Wave – in a box.
>>> >>> = Rationale =
>>> >>> Wave has shown it excels at small group collaboration when hosted by
>>> Google.
>>> >>> Although Wave will not continue as a standalone Google product, there
>>> is a
>>> >>> lot of interest from many organizations in both running Wave and
>>> building
>>> >>> upon the technology for new products.
>>> >>> We are confident that with the community-centric development
>>> environment
>>> >>> fostered by the Apache Software Foundation, WIAB will thrive.
>>> >>> = Initial Goals =
>>> >>> The initial goals of the project are:
>>> >>>  1.  To migrate the codebase from code.google.com and integrate the
>>> project
>>> >>> with the ASF infrastructure (issue management, build, project site,
>>> etc).
>>> >>>  1.  To quickly reach a state where it is possible to continue the
>>> >>> development of the Wave In a Box implementation under the ASF
>>> project.
>>> >>>  1.  To add new committers to the project and grow the community in
>>> "The
>>> >>> Apache Way".
>>> >>> = Current Status =
>>> >>> The open source Wave in a Box project has existed in various forms
>>> for
>>> >>> approximately 16 months (starting out life as the FedOne open source
>>> >>> project).
>>> >>> FedOne began in July 2009 in order to accelerate adoption of the wave
>>> >>> federation protocol, and serve as a proof of concept that a
>>> non-Google
>>> >>> implementation of the wave federation protocol could interoperate
>>> with the
>>> >>> Google production instance. It worked. FedOne's existence lead to a
>>> >>> prototype by Novell that demonstrated federation between Google Wave
>>> and
>>> >>> Novell Pulse (now known as Vibe). In addition, in May of 2010, SAP
>>> unveiled
>>> >>> a prototype version of SAP StreamWork that federated with both Novell
>>> Pulse
>>> >>> and Google Wave. All three systems interoperated, sharing real-time
>>> state,
>>> >>> and gadget updates. In May 2010 Google released significantly more
>>> code
>>> >>> (including the cross-browser rich text editor) to connect with other
>>> >>> components that were built from scratch, resulting in a simple web
>>> client.
>>> >>> The project has grown over the last year to include many Google and
>>> >>> non-Google contributions.  The project has picked up steam in recent
>>> months
>>> >>> as the direction of the standalone Google Wave product has shifted.
>>>  At this
>>> >>> time the Wave in a Box project enjoys very active development, with
>>> new
>>> >>> features and functionality being added almost daily. The first Wave
>>> Protocol
>>> >>> Summit was recently held and included developers from a variety of
>>> >>> countries, companies, and organizations.
>>> >>> The code base is a mixture of mature core code from Google Wave, and
>>> >>> somewhat immature integration code forming WIAB. WIAB is quickly
>>> becoming
>>> >>> highly functional and is already in a very "demoable" state.  The
>>> >>> development mailing lists are  very active indicating wide community
>>> >>> support.  We recognize that now is a good time to migrate to the
>>> Apache
>>> >>> Foundation while the codebase and community is a manageable size.
>>>  Assuming
>>> >>> the current momentum continues, we expect strong growth in the code
>>> and
>>> >>> community in the near future.
>>> >>> == Meritocracy ==
>>> >>> The initial set of committers includes many Google employees, and
>>> there is
>>> >>> an active and growing community outside Google contributing to WIAB
>>> already
>>> >>> today. Google culture itself encourages meritocracy, and the
>>> community has
>>> >>> always grown – and will continue to grow – in this fashion.
>>> >>> As shown by the initial committers list below, several members from
>>> outside
>>> >>> of Google have already demonstrated interest, skill, and commitment
>>> to
>>> >>> contributing to the project.  These individuals have been recognized
>>> on
>>> >>> those merits by the initial committers.  Their selection as the first
>>> wave
>>> >>> of new committers is a sign of the burgeoning meritocracy.
>>> >>> == Community ==
>>> >>> Wave currently has a healthy community around waveprotocol.org, with
>>> >>> conversations hosted at http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol.
>>> We
>>> >>> plan to move this community to the Apache Software Foundation
>>> incubator.
>>> >>> == Core Developers ==
>>> >>> The initial committers comes from a variety of backgrounds and
>>> includes many
>>> >>> from Google. There are a few existing Apache committers amongst this
>>> initial
>>> >>> group.  We anticipate early future committers coming from places like
>>> >>> Novell, SAP, companies related to the US Navy's usage of wave,
>>> startups in
>>> >>> the wave ecosystem, and many independent individuals.
>>> >>> == Alignment ==
>>> >>> The developers of WIAB want to work with the Apache Software
>>> Foundation
>>> >>> because Apache has proven to provide a strong foundation with good
>>> >>> infrastructure and support for developing projects in an open
>>> community.  As
>>> >>> WIAB continues to grow, the community will look to both reuse
>>> available
>>> >>> Apache projects as well as look for opportunities to contribute back
>>> to the
>>> >>> larger Apache community.
>>> >>> = Known Risks =
>>> >>> == Orphaned products ==
>>> >>> Wave is a new means for communication, and thus it is still maturing.
>>> While
>>> >>> the initial implementation (Google Wave) did not gain sufficient
>>> traction
>>> >>> for it to continue as a standalone Google product, there are other
>>> related
>>> >>> projects (e.g. Novell Vibe, SAP StreamWork), and several startups in
>>> the
>>> >>> space that are continuing to build on the technology. In addition,
>>> the US
>>> >>> Navy has contracted with four companies as part of evaluating using
>>> wave
>>> >>> technology on every ship. The community itself is still growing, with
>>> >>> several new contributors recently added.
>>> >>> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
>>> >>> The initial committers have varying degrees of experience with open
>>> source
>>> >>> projects. Many from the community are familiar with open source.
>>> >>> == Homogeneous Developers ==
>>> >>> The initial set of developers does include many from Google. However,
>>> the
>>> >>> project has accepted many patches from independent individuals, and
>>> some
>>> >>> have already gained committership. Several companies have expressed
>>> interest
>>> >>> and forty individuals participated in the Wave Summit.
>>> >>> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
>>> >>> Following Google's change of focus for Wave in August, some of Wave's
>>> Google
>>> >>> developers have chosen to continue working on Wave, but it is
>>> imperative
>>> >>> that we continue to grow the community larger in the coming months.
>>> >>> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
>>> >>> We currently use the following libraries from Apache
>>> >>>  * Commons CLI
>>> >>>  * Commons Codec
>>> >>>  * Commons HttpClient
>>> >>>  * Commons Logging
>>> >>>  * Velocity
>>> >>>  * Ant
>>> >>> We've also contributed the Wave Gadget implementation into the Apache
>>> >>> Shindig project.
>>> >>> = Documentation =
>>> >>> Entry point for documentation of all the specs and designs.
>>> >>> http://waveprotocol.org/
>>> >>> Wave Robots API
>>> >>> http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/
>>> >>> Wave Gadgets API
>>> >>> http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html
>>> >>> = Initial Source =
>>> >>> The initial source will come from
>>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/source/browse/. This consists
>>> of the
>>> >>> Java code necessary for the client and server. These are already open
>>> source
>>> >>> repositories licensed under the Apache Public License.
>>> >>> = Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan =
>>> >>> Beginning with the initial unveiling, Google published a liberal
>>> patent
>>> >>> license:
>>> >>> Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Google and its
>>> >>> affiliates hereby grant to you a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive,
>>> >>> no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable (except as stated in this
>>> License)
>>> >>> patent license for patents necessarily infringed by implementation of
>>> this
>>> >>> specification. If you institute patent litigation against any entity
>>> >>> (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit) alleging that
>>> the
>>> >>> implementation of the specification constitutes direct or
>>> contributory
>>> >>> patent infringement, then any patent licenses for the specification
>>> granted
>>> >>> to you under this License shall terminate as of the date such
>>> litigation is
>>> >>> filed.
>>> >>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/patent-license
>>> >>> == Trademarks ==
>>> >>> Google retains all rights to the trademarks "GOOGLE WAVE" and the
>>> wave
>>> >>> design logo, neither of which will be used in the Apache Wave
>>> project.
>>> >>> = External Dependencies =
>>> >>> In addition to the previously mentioned Apache dependencies, the
>>> initial
>>> >>> code relies on the following libraries that have Apache compatible
>>> licenses:
>>> >>> antlr, aopalliance, asm, bouncycastle, cglib, dom4j, emma, gson,
>>> guava,
>>> >>> guice, gwt, gxp, hamcrest, jackson, jdom, jetty, jline, jmock,
>>> joda_time,
>>> >>> jsr305, junit, libidn, mockito, mongo-driver, oauth, protobuf,
>>> >>> protobuf-format-java, protostuff, stringtemplate, websocket, whack,
>>> xpp3
>>> >>> = Cryptography =
>>> >>> We use standard crypto library methods available in java.security.*.
>>> Wave
>>> >>> federation plans to uses encryption for sending deltas to remote Wave
>>> >>> servers.
>>> >>> = Required Resources =
>>> >>> ==  Mailing lists ==
>>> >>>  * wave-dev
>>> >>>  * wave-commits
>>> >>>  * wave-private
>>> >>> It is possible that if the project does grown to include many sub
>>> project
>>> >>> that we would split the mailing list up by sub project.  Again we
>>> have
>>> >>> flexibility.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> == Subversion Directory ==
>>> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wave
>>> >>> == Issue Tracking ==
>>> >>> Please help us setup a JIRA instance for both issue tracking and code
>>> >>> review.
>>> >>> == Other Resources ==
>>> >>>  * a wiki (for the sites pages)
>>> >>> (http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html or a wiki
>>> >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/)
>>> >>>  * code review on reviews.apache.org
>>> >>>  * a server to run a dogfood instance
>>> >>>  * continuous build bot
>>> >>> = Initial Committers =
>>> >>>  * Alex North (Google)
>>> >>>  * Anthony Watkins (SESI)
>>> >>>  * Christian Ohler (Google)
>>> >>>  * Dan Danilatos (Google)
>>> >>>  * Dan Peterson (Google) / [email protected]
>>> >>>  * David Hearnden (Google)
>>> >>>  * David Wang (Google)
>>> >>>  * Ian Roughley (Novell) / [email protected]
>>> >>>  * James Purser
>>> >>>  * Joseph Gentle
>>> >>>  * Lennard de Rijk
>>> >>>  * Michael MacFadden (Solute)
>>> >>>  * Soren Lassen (Google)
>>> >>>  * Tad Glines
>>> >>>  * Torben Weis (University Duisburg-Essen)
>>> >>> = Sponsors =
>>> >>> == Champion ==
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  * Paul Lindner
>>> >>> == Nominated Mentors ==
>>> >>>  * Santiago Gala
>>> >>>  * Upayavira
>>> >>>  * Andrus Adamchik
>>> >>>  * Vincent Siveton
>>> >>>  * Ben Laurie
>>> >>> == Sponsoring Entity ==
>>> >>> The Apache Incubator.
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