What if inline replies worked like citations on wikipedia:

A superscript [1], [2], etc indicates an inline-reply.
Clicking a superscript teleports you to an ordered list of the
inline-replies at the bottom of the current blip.

This would reduce some of the conceptual overlap between replies and
inline-replies.  It also serves as a useful feature for document
waves.

On 12/4/10, Kai Chang <[email protected]> wrote:
> *Therefore the columns need to be re-sizable, minimisable, etc*
>
> Behavior could be heavily constrained for some views.  My desire is to
> avoid
> as much dragging/rearranging as possible on the user's part.  For example,
> gChat boxes inside Gmail look like windows-- but there's no resizing or
> moving available (there is minimising and popping out of the screen).
>
> There are cross-browser challenges to be sure, for instance when a user
> resizes the browser window.
>
> *Iframes*
>
> In the column view, IFrames and gadgets should not load.  This is part of
> the appeal: you can browse several Waves' content and check what's been
> updated without loading all that junk.  As I've alluded to with the
> Yes/No/Maybe placeholders, it would be nice if the column view could
> display
> a summary of a gadget's current state.
>
> *I too agree that inline replies can make a wave horrible.*
>
> Inline replies will eventually be one of Wave's very attractive features.
> They could be used for footnotes, marginalia, corrections, and other
> annotations.  But on Gwave, they seem to rend posts apart mid-thought.  I
> don't believe they belong in the normal flow of threaded conversation.
>
> *On jQuery and JavaScript libraries:*w could display a summary of a
> gadget's
> current state.
>
> I'm using a small subset of jQuery for this demo, but that could easily be
> replaced by standalone javascript once we've narrowed down the desired
> functionality.
>
> Thanks for the feedback, I hope to have new views to post sometime this
> week.
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Chris Harvey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I had looked at Miller columns before but not seriously thought the
>> approach would be useful until I saw Chang's excellent Tensor UI demo.
>>
>> I have created a working prototype UI based on Miller columns for
>> iotaWave.
>> These are my thoughts thus far:
>>
>> 1. For our purposes, we need N columns; where N is variable depending on
>> use-case but could be up to 8 columns. Therefore the columns need to be
>> re-sizable, minimisable, etc, This causes *a lot* of cross-browser
>> development fun (in particular relating to what Firefox does to iFrame
>> (gadget) content. Chrome is much better. ... haven't started on the
>> various
>> IE flavours yet).
>>
>> 2. Multiple columns (with divs for resize, minimise, maximise, title,
>> grab
>> bars, etc.) is a *real* pain in cross-browser CSS. HTML tables help
>> greatly
>> to manage columns and their content.
>>
>> 3. Sometimes columns need to be visible on the screen at the same time,
>> sometimes scrolling right works ok. (This is design/usability-related but
>> has the expected knock-on effects to coding).
>>
>> 4. Populating the columns with DOM operations (lower-level control but
>> more
>> code) or innerHTML (simpler but faster) has knock-on implications for
>> aforementioned minimising, etc.
>>
>> I've spent 10 days working to create a useable (iotaWave-integrated) UI.
>> Two days on the core development. Eight days on cross-browser issues.
>> Beware.
>>
>> I too agree that inline replies can make a wave horrible. We have been
>> holding-off implementing inline replies for that reason (and the fact
>> that
>> the average user has too many editing options to mentally comprehend), I
>> follow your thoughts/ideas for their extraction with interest.
>>
>> --
>> Chris
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>> Singapore
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