On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:52:32AM -0400, Drew DeVault wrote: > On Wed Jun 19, 2019 at 8:38 AM Jonas Ådahl wrote: > > > I'm okay with this definition, but I'll again mention that this wording > > > makes a clear case for the wlr toplevel management protocol: > > > > > > https://github.com/swaywm/wlr-protocols/blob/master/unstable/wlr-foreign-toplevel-management-unstable-v1.xml > > > > > > This is your chance to object to a wording that would include this > > > protocol. > > > > s/configure surfaces/configure its surfaces/ would rule out accidentally > > including external window manager like protocols into the xdg namespace. > > How does xdg-foreign fit into this definition?
xdg-foreign is an edge case but IMHO it fits in the definition. xdg-shell deals with stacking order of the dialogs of an application. xdg-foreign extends this behaviour by allowing two clients to "act as one". The current users are the xdg-desktop-portal backend, but it's something that's needed for e.g. modal dialogs for out-of-process plugins and similar things. It's far from task bar like functionality, if that's what you are trying to compare it to. > > I see two courses of action for this problem: > > a. Don't weasel word the xdg shell definition and accept that > xdg-foreign-toplevel-management fits. "Universal acceptance" is the > bar for the wp- prefix, but not xdg-. Just because e.g. GNOME wouldn't > implement it doesn't necessarily mean it's not a good fit - see also > xdg-decoration. xdg-decoration is a perfectly good fit for "xdg-" IMO. Again, I believe the definition should make it clear that it's for applications, not desktop components. I'm not trying to weasel anything here, I'm trying to avoid making anyone believe writing a task bar is the same thing as writing an application that is expected to work everywhere. > b. Close the xdg namespace to new protocols. > > There's also option c, which is weasel word it until the protocols > anyone doesn't like aren't included and the protocols everyone does like > are included, but I don't think that's worth our time to try and > accomplish. Lets not be childish; noone is trying to weasel anything here, and I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish by implying that. Jonas _______________________________________________ wayland-devel mailing list wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel
