Hi, Samuel, On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 3:21 PM samuel ammonius <sfammon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't understand what all the talk is about when discussing whether > it should be up to the compositor or app to set a window's position.
Right now under Wayland ONLY the compositor decides the position where the window is created. Always!! No exceptions. Thank you. > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 2:30 PM Daniel Stone <dan...@fooishbar.org> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 at 17:21, Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 9:20 PM Thiago Macieira <thi...@kde.org> wrote: >> > > No, they are about position too. 100,100 on a 1920x1080 resolution is >> > > about 5% >> > > to the right of the left edge and 10% from the top. 100,100 on 3840x2160 >> > > is >> > > 2.5% from the left and 5% from the top, on the same monitor. The user >> > > has a >> > > right to expect the same finger-width position on the screen, relative >> > > to where >> > > their eyes are looking at. >> > >> > No, they are not. >> > It should be up to the application to decide the coordinate system >> > PPI/DPI/etc. >> >> This is why there is no value in this discussion. You are making >> assertions like this as if they are axiomatic. >> >> It would be possible to redesign Wayland following the principles you >> have described. No-one is doing this, however. We have carefully >> considered the points you have raised over the past 14 years and >> reached different conclusions. I'm sorry that Wayland is not the >> perfect window system you envisage in your own head, but just >> repeating your same beliefs that the design is fundamentally flawed >> over and over, will not force us to change the design.