On 08/08/2022 09:05, JiDe Zhang wrote:
Hi:
Is it that more people think that not allowed the window to set their
position is better? I think that Wayland is better than X11 In this
regard. It is correct to not let the window be set position, But some
people will have doubts, because their know that some windows need to
set their own position. We should pay attention to these needs and
analyze what is the real reason their need for this interface,
It is entirely understandable for the designers of applications and
application toolkits to be surprised they don't have the control they
have in other windowing systems (X11, Windows, whatever). For decades
they've been used to deciding where their windows go. Trusting the
compositor to do that is a surprise.
But in the real world, they have to conform to a small number idioms
that users recognise, and supporting those is very possible without
allowing "full control". We've done some work on classifying these
idioms for Mir and there's a presentation of our findings here:
https://mir-server.io/docs/window-positions-under-wayland
The tl;dr is that most of the idioms (regular windows, dialogs, menus,
popus, tooltips, hovers, satellites, toolboxes) are already supported
and there's no fundamental problem extending the existing approach used
by Wayland to cover others. (Most of the support needed can be cut &
paste from other idioms.)
