On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 05:43:09AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 4:03 PM Simon Ser <cont...@emersion.fr> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > With years passing by, development in the main Wayland repository has > > slowed down quite a bit, activity has moved over to wayland-protocols > > and compositors. However, cutting a new Wayland release is still a > > heavyweight process: it takes at least one and a half months with at > > least 3 pre-releases. I'm also not sure about the value of all of these > > pre-releases: historically they've been used to push the last features > > over the fence before the RCs, but it's easy enough to talk and > > coordinate over the bits that we want to wait on for the release. > > > > I would suggest to drop the alphas/betas from the release process, ie. > > go straight to RC1. The process would then continue as usual, with > > weekly RCs. As a release manager this would help reduce the load. This > > is also what I've been doing for Sway and wlroots for a very long time. > > > > Would this make sense? Are there other reasons why alphas/betas were > > valuable? > > > > Funnily enough, I think wlroots should probably have them since > wlroots releases are so highly disruptive for basically every > consumer... > > That said, going straight to RCs for libwayland itself seems > reasonable. But, do we even need those? Could we go straight to > release since the churn is so low?
I think it's better to start with skipping alpha/beta for now, so that there is at least *some* testing before things end up in a release. This is different from wayland-protocols, since they don't end up causing any actual changes on people's system until servers and clients make use of and ship them. Jonas > > > > -- > 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth!