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wbmutbb-digest        Friday, February 4 2000        Volume 02 : Number 041




Topics in this issue:

 LikeTelevision
 Why TAGS is the way it is
 Re: foxes and
 Mayberry of the Midwest
 Helen Kleeb
 Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #40
 Barney's Raise
 The Cow Thief
 length of episodes
 Janet Stewart
 Mayberry of Midwest 
 Mayberry of the Midwest, Part Deux

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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:03:08 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: LikeTelevision

Hey Folks, 

I got this note today and I wanted to share it with y'all. ONE IMPORTANT 
THING...you MUST have a broadband internet connection (cable modem, DSL, ISDN 
or something very fast) to be able to see this stuff but I connected today at 
work and it's amazing!!

Allan

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Subj: Andy Griffith
Date:   2/3/00 12:58:21 PM Central Standard Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Willy Krause)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi:
check this out !  Actual episodes online.
Andy Griffith Show - broadband streaming internet TV

http://www.liketelevision.com/web1/classictv/andyg/

hope you enjoy yourself.

regards,
Willy
LikeTelevision

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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 13:43:16 GMT
From: "Harriet Browder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Why TAGS is the way it is

Someone wrote:
>I have a universal answer to all WHY questions that are in the digest
>these days.  Such as...Why did Opie not seem to be nine years >old...why 
>did Clara have the "greased lightning" syndrome...why did >Andy and Barney 
>go to the same reunion...? Because that's how it is >in Mayberry!!!  Part 
>of the beauty and sweetness of the show >was/is ..the ability of the 
>writers to manipulate time a>nd >circumstances to make things come out just 
>right.  I'm glad that >Mayberry isn't bound by a standard calendar, or by 
>time.  I'm glad >for Mayberry just the way it is!

Right on!  Isn't it amazing how everyone is a editor/director? If some 
members of the Digest were TV show writers and directors there wouldn't be 
an opportunity for us to discuss the show as it is, for it would be the most 
boring show on earth. As my daddy always said when one of us kids would 
comment about an inconsistancy, "That's the way the producrer wanted it." or 
"The prop man told them to do it that way." or "They've only got 30 minutes 
to wrap it up." What everyone forgets is the shows back in the 50/60s 
weren't so concerned about accuracy and carrying stories over to the next 
week. They were written for entertainment not critique. If you remember 
there wasn't a final show with everyone crying and waving to the audience 
like Cheers, Mash, Coach etc.  They didn't connect the actors role to the 
tear jerkers watching. Let's just enjoy TAGS for what it was. Who cares if 
Clara was accidently called Bertha? Or that she could clean a house between 
commercials.  And so what if it took 5 hours to drive to Mt. Pilot on some 
shows and some others only 1/2 hour.  I take each show in its entity and 
like Andy said, "Only one thing to do, learn to love 'em." If you want to 
get pick(le)y - why didn't Andy and Barney just throw the bad pickles in the 
garbage?

Sorry for breaking rule number 2. I'm sure I'll take a few hits for being so 
direct...but "the quality of mercy is not strained."

Harriet, the Chicken Thief

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:27:09 +0000
From: "Spotwilt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: foxes and

Re: Paul Mulik's all too logical comments:

>>>Will you answer me this?  How can a fox open a refrigerator door, 
and how did the Count get Helen moved from third grade to fourth and 
then to fifth? She was teaching fifth grade when the Count appeared 
on the scene.<<<<

Foxes is cunning creachsters.  It's just a theory.... and they don't 
make refrigerator doors like they used to, especially back in the 
Count's day. 

Never underestimate the power of retroactive old world Counts.  Count 
Iz's great great great great great nephew might have been the school 
superintendent. 
Albert (A new world "Noah Count")
(3rd grade was the best three years of my life!)

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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 23:19:46 -0600
From: Gloria Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mayberry of the Midwest

I just finished reading the article entitled "Mayberry of the Midwest."  I
don't know why some people feel offended by having their town compared to
Mayberry.  It has the lowest crime rate of any town its size in America,
everyone there gets along,  there are no street gangs, and the public school
system works.  I live in a small town 30 miles west of Chicago and at one
time it was always referred to as Mayberry because of its size.  This was
until one day the lady mayor took it as a compliment and it was never called
that again.  Some people describe a hick as a person who enjoys the simple
things in life, who helps out their fellow man, stays out of trouble, and
has respect for each other just like the people in Mayberry.  Sure, some of
the characters act silly or inept, but I would rather have them as neighbors
than some of the ones I have now.  I know that I can trust them in a time of
need and I won't have to keep my doors and windows locked all of the time.

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 01:32:50 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Helen Kleeb

Helen played Jess' wife who picked him up when Mayor Stoner had a fit about 
the deal at the jail. I have a still of that scene that I got Helen to sign 
when I visited her in September in LA. Helen went on to play Miss Mamie on 
The Waltons and is now 93 years old.

Regards,
Jason

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 05:06:41 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #40

I was laughing so loud at the epilogue from last night's show that my
husband came into the living room to see what the big moulage was! I
told him a rouge elephant was ruining the crops and snatching children
from their beds!!!

'on the lookout for a three legged elephant'

~the groovy MissPoovey~

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Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 05:56:47 -0600
From: Rodney Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Barney's Raise

In the episode where Barney writes for a raise, I have noticed something
that just doesn't look right. Barney has written to ask for a raise and
is waiting for a reply. Near the end of the show, Andy pulls a letter
out of the desk and before Barney can open it, tells him that he didn't
get his raise.

Sooooooooooooooo either:  A.  Andy opened Barney's mail and read it
                                         B.  The envelope was sent
unsealed and he read it
or                                      C. He had "inside" information.

Even if Andy had been told by the mayor or the city council that Barney
didn't get the raise, that part of the show just doesn't seem to flow
right. I know they did it the way they did for comedic reasons, but I
wonder if Ange read ALL of Barney's mail?

YENDOR
"makes you thank!"

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:00:40 -0500
From: "Dan Goodwin/Jobscope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The Cow Thief

Did you notice what they cut from The Cow Thief?  After Barney, the Mayor
and Upchurch leave the house, Barney returns.  As Barney stumbles around to
say why he's back, Andy says something about it might be a hairbrained
idea.  Barney says something about "I remember another mayor who thought
you had a hairbrained idea...........when you hired me."  Those couple of
lines were missing last night.  And that is one of the 2 scenes that always
makes me cry!  Ben Weaver singing Away in a Manger is the other.

LOOK OUT, LAURA LEE!  (That girl, that's the second time this week she's
almost got hit by a gold truck.  Maybe she ought to get her hearing
checked.)  REGIS, PUT DOWN THAT SIGN!

Speaking of Regis, that character was played by Doodles Weaver (also was
George the mailman who notices that Henry Wheeler has soft hands for a
handyman) who was better known as part of Spike Jones City Slickers.
Doodles sang the lead on "Beetlebaum" and several other comedy classics.
I'm getting to my point, just be patient....Sigorney Weaver is Doodles'
neice.

dan

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 06:29:22 -0600
From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: length of episodes

>From: "Hinesley, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I love seeing the epilogues again...many for the first time.  Does anyone
know what the length of the regular episodes with the epilogues is?  How
much of the show is being edited out each night?
>>>

A complete episode without credits or commercials is 24 minutes and 30
seconds.  I haven't been timing the TVLand versions, but the ones on TBS and
WGN used to run 21 minutes each.

- --Paul

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 06:37:43 -0600
From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Janet Stewart

>>>Mrs. Ambrose was on the episode yesterday and credits listed both Janet
Stewart and Helen Kleeb...Maybe Janet Stewart portrayed Jess Morgan's wife
in [Andy and the New Mayor] in a scene we don't always get to see.  Are you
listening Paul?

Aunt Bee of Orlando
>>>

Each actress has only one short scene in the episode.  Janet Stewart plays
Mrs. Ambrose.  She drops off her baby, Jeremy, at the courthouse.  Helen
Kleeb plays Mrs. Morgan, who comes to pick up Jess when Andy lets him out on
probation.  One or both of these scenes may have been cut in the version you
saw.

- --Paul

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 06:49:52 -0600
From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mayberry of Midwest 

>>>From: Larry and Kate Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Seems a near by town in billing itself as the "Mayberry of the Midwest".
And some folks in town are upset about it.  Seems that they feel this is a
put-down.  They don't want people thinking of them as hicks.
>>>

There's worse things than bein' a plain hick -- like bein' a hungry one.

Anyway, here's a suggestion:  Look at the crime statistics for that town (or
any town), then make a list comparing those statistics with Mayberry's.
Here's how the Mayberry side will look:

Murder: 0*
Kidnapping: 0
Rape: 0
Child molestation: 0
DUI: 0
Robbery attempts (successful): 0
Auto theft: 0
Illegal drug use: 0 (unless you count moonshine)

...etc., etc.

*The Remshaw case was only a rumor as far as I'm concerned.

- --Paul

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:56:10 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mayberry of the Midwest, Part Deux

Hello to Larry from Bloomington!  Nice to see a friendly neighbor hanging 
around the digest!  And this morning on the Today Show, they did a piece on 
the whole Mayberry of the Midwest topic.  Methinks some peope in Clay City, 
IN are making a big moolage out of this!  :-)

Smokey
Bloomington, IN

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