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wbmutbb-digest Friday, February 4 2000 Volume 02 : Number 041 Topics in this issue: LikeTelevision Why TAGS is the way it is Re: foxes and Mayberry of the Midwest Helen Kleeb Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #40 Barney's Raise The Cow Thief length of episodes Janet Stewart Mayberry of Midwest Mayberry of the Midwest, Part Deux ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:03:08 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LikeTelevision Hey Folks, I got this note today and I wanted to share it with y'all. ONE IMPORTANT THING...you MUST have a broadband internet connection (cable modem, DSL, ISDN or something very fast) to be able to see this stuff but I connected today at work and it's amazing!! Allan - ---- Subj: Andy Griffith Date: 2/3/00 12:58:21 PM Central Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Willy Krause) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi: check this out ! Actual episodes online. Andy Griffith Show - broadband streaming internet TV http://www.liketelevision.com/web1/classictv/andyg/ hope you enjoy yourself. regards, Willy LikeTelevision ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 13:43:16 GMT From: "Harriet Browder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Why TAGS is the way it is Someone wrote: >I have a universal answer to all WHY questions that are in the digest >these days. Such as...Why did Opie not seem to be nine years >old...why >did Clara have the "greased lightning" syndrome...why did >Andy and Barney >go to the same reunion...? Because that's how it is >in Mayberry!!! Part >of the beauty and sweetness of the show >was/is ..the ability of the >writers to manipulate time a>nd >circumstances to make things come out just >right. I'm glad that >Mayberry isn't bound by a standard calendar, or by >time. I'm glad >for Mayberry just the way it is! Right on! Isn't it amazing how everyone is a editor/director? If some members of the Digest were TV show writers and directors there wouldn't be an opportunity for us to discuss the show as it is, for it would be the most boring show on earth. As my daddy always said when one of us kids would comment about an inconsistancy, "That's the way the producrer wanted it." or "The prop man told them to do it that way." or "They've only got 30 minutes to wrap it up." What everyone forgets is the shows back in the 50/60s weren't so concerned about accuracy and carrying stories over to the next week. They were written for entertainment not critique. If you remember there wasn't a final show with everyone crying and waving to the audience like Cheers, Mash, Coach etc. They didn't connect the actors role to the tear jerkers watching. Let's just enjoy TAGS for what it was. Who cares if Clara was accidently called Bertha? Or that she could clean a house between commercials. And so what if it took 5 hours to drive to Mt. Pilot on some shows and some others only 1/2 hour. I take each show in its entity and like Andy said, "Only one thing to do, learn to love 'em." If you want to get pick(le)y - why didn't Andy and Barney just throw the bad pickles in the garbage? Sorry for breaking rule number 2. I'm sure I'll take a few hits for being so direct...but "the quality of mercy is not strained." Harriet, the Chicken Thief ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:27:09 +0000 From: "Spotwilt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: foxes and Re: Paul Mulik's all too logical comments: >>>Will you answer me this? How can a fox open a refrigerator door, and how did the Count get Helen moved from third grade to fourth and then to fifth? She was teaching fifth grade when the Count appeared on the scene.<<<< Foxes is cunning creachsters. It's just a theory.... and they don't make refrigerator doors like they used to, especially back in the Count's day. Never underestimate the power of retroactive old world Counts. Count Iz's great great great great great nephew might have been the school superintendent. Albert (A new world "Noah Count") (3rd grade was the best three years of my life!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 23:19:46 -0600 From: Gloria Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Mayberry of the Midwest I just finished reading the article entitled "Mayberry of the Midwest." I don't know why some people feel offended by having their town compared to Mayberry. It has the lowest crime rate of any town its size in America, everyone there gets along, there are no street gangs, and the public school system works. I live in a small town 30 miles west of Chicago and at one time it was always referred to as Mayberry because of its size. This was until one day the lady mayor took it as a compliment and it was never called that again. Some people describe a hick as a person who enjoys the simple things in life, who helps out their fellow man, stays out of trouble, and has respect for each other just like the people in Mayberry. Sure, some of the characters act silly or inept, but I would rather have them as neighbors than some of the ones I have now. I know that I can trust them in a time of need and I won't have to keep my doors and windows locked all of the time. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 01:32:50 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Helen Kleeb Helen played Jess' wife who picked him up when Mayor Stoner had a fit about the deal at the jail. I have a still of that scene that I got Helen to sign when I visited her in September in LA. Helen went on to play Miss Mamie on The Waltons and is now 93 years old. Regards, Jason ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 05:06:41 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #40 I was laughing so loud at the epilogue from last night's show that my husband came into the living room to see what the big moulage was! I told him a rouge elephant was ruining the crops and snatching children from their beds!!! 'on the lookout for a three legged elephant' ~the groovy MissPoovey~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 05:56:47 -0600 From: Rodney Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Barney's Raise In the episode where Barney writes for a raise, I have noticed something that just doesn't look right. Barney has written to ask for a raise and is waiting for a reply. Near the end of the show, Andy pulls a letter out of the desk and before Barney can open it, tells him that he didn't get his raise. Sooooooooooooooo either: A. Andy opened Barney's mail and read it B. The envelope was sent unsealed and he read it or C. He had "inside" information. Even if Andy had been told by the mayor or the city council that Barney didn't get the raise, that part of the show just doesn't seem to flow right. I know they did it the way they did for comedic reasons, but I wonder if Ange read ALL of Barney's mail? YENDOR "makes you thank!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:00:40 -0500 From: "Dan Goodwin/Jobscope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: The Cow Thief Did you notice what they cut from The Cow Thief? After Barney, the Mayor and Upchurch leave the house, Barney returns. As Barney stumbles around to say why he's back, Andy says something about it might be a hairbrained idea. Barney says something about "I remember another mayor who thought you had a hairbrained idea...........when you hired me." Those couple of lines were missing last night. And that is one of the 2 scenes that always makes me cry! Ben Weaver singing Away in a Manger is the other. LOOK OUT, LAURA LEE! (That girl, that's the second time this week she's almost got hit by a gold truck. Maybe she ought to get her hearing checked.) REGIS, PUT DOWN THAT SIGN! Speaking of Regis, that character was played by Doodles Weaver (also was George the mailman who notices that Henry Wheeler has soft hands for a handyman) who was better known as part of Spike Jones City Slickers. Doodles sang the lead on "Beetlebaum" and several other comedy classics. I'm getting to my point, just be patient....Sigorney Weaver is Doodles' neice. dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 06:29:22 -0600 From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: length of episodes >From: "Hinesley, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] I love seeing the epilogues again...many for the first time. Does anyone know what the length of the regular episodes with the epilogues is? How much of the show is being edited out each night? >>> A complete episode without credits or commercials is 24 minutes and 30 seconds. I haven't been timing the TVLand versions, but the ones on TBS and WGN used to run 21 minutes each. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 06:37:43 -0600 From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Janet Stewart >>>Mrs. Ambrose was on the episode yesterday and credits listed both Janet Stewart and Helen Kleeb...Maybe Janet Stewart portrayed Jess Morgan's wife in [Andy and the New Mayor] in a scene we don't always get to see. Are you listening Paul? Aunt Bee of Orlando >>> Each actress has only one short scene in the episode. Janet Stewart plays Mrs. Ambrose. She drops off her baby, Jeremy, at the courthouse. Helen Kleeb plays Mrs. Morgan, who comes to pick up Jess when Andy lets him out on probation. One or both of these scenes may have been cut in the version you saw. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 06:49:52 -0600 From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Mayberry of Midwest >>>From: Larry and Kate Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Seems a near by town in billing itself as the "Mayberry of the Midwest". And some folks in town are upset about it. Seems that they feel this is a put-down. They don't want people thinking of them as hicks. >>> There's worse things than bein' a plain hick -- like bein' a hungry one. Anyway, here's a suggestion: Look at the crime statistics for that town (or any town), then make a list comparing those statistics with Mayberry's. Here's how the Mayberry side will look: Murder: 0* Kidnapping: 0 Rape: 0 Child molestation: 0 DUI: 0 Robbery attempts (successful): 0 Auto theft: 0 Illegal drug use: 0 (unless you count moonshine) ...etc., etc. *The Remshaw case was only a rumor as far as I'm concerned. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:56:10 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mayberry of the Midwest, Part Deux Hello to Larry from Bloomington! Nice to see a friendly neighbor hanging around the digest! And this morning on the Today Show, they did a piece on the whole Mayberry of the Midwest topic. Methinks some peope in Clay City, IN are making a big moolage out of this! :-) Smokey Bloomington, IN ------------------------------ End of wbmutbb-digest V2 #41 **************************** ************************************************** ~ Visit our sponsor ~ Weaver's Department Store ~ http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/weavers/ ************************************************** You must send your comments to the Digest from the address you used to join WBMUTBB or your message will not be posted. Only members may post to this mailing list. To remove yourself from the WBMUTBB Digest mailing list send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe wbmutbb-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your email address, first unsubscribe using the command above and then re-subscribe using the following command in the body of your email message: subscribe wbmutbb-digest

