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wbmutbb-digest Thursday, March 15 2001 Volume 03 : Number 084
Topics in this issue:
Just noticing...
Knott story in Kansas City Star
Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #81
Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #83
weekend event in AL
Congrats April!
Loaded goat
Dry County/moonshining
the loaded goat episode
script continuity
overalls
Continuity
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:03:43 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Just noticing...
Hello to all,
I was watching the "Goober Takes the Car Apart" episode today and noticed
something. I do a little work on cars myself and believe the fan on the
engine when it's inside the courthouse is turning the wrong way. Engines
rotate clock-wise and the fan is rotating counter clock-wise. As a matter of
fact, I went out to my truck and started it, raised the hood, and watched the
engine run. Guess what, it went clock-wise!! Another little slip up made by
the producers but another fun thing for us to find in our beloved Mayberry.
Jacob in Jackson, TN
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:53:17 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Knott story in Kansas City Star
I know this story is a little long for the digest, but I thought
folks might enjoy reading it. It's all about Don Knotts' continuing
popularity at a Kansas City dinner theater.
Steve Kraske
(EDITORS NOTE: I removed the story and added this link to it. I hope it
works. --Allan)
http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/printer.pat,fyi/37753300.313,.html
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:25:35 -0600
From: "Neil B. Engle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #81
Be sure to check out the March 15 edition of the KC Star. There's a great
feature
on Don Knotts! Jim Clark, and yours truly, and a few other TAGS people are
quoted. You can look at it at www.kcstar.com--FYI section! Lotsa luck to you
and yours! Neil--hopefully this Sunday not dry as dust--Engle.
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:41:36 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #83
Overalls.
I believe Goober had on overalls when he returned from
his hunting trip and had grown a beard.
Don
"Keeper of the Flame"
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:02:12 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: weekend event in AL
Hey Jim!
In case someone hasn't already filled you in, the event this weekend in AL is
none other than The Mayberry Squad Car Nationals. The event takes place in
northwest AL in Fayette on Saturday. This is near Tuscaloosa.
I will not be able to attend, but it sure sounds like a fun Mayberry day.
They will have a trivia contest and a whisteling competetition. And, of
course, the races between the squad cars.
Hope this information helps!
Crystal M. in AL
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:05:48 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Congrats April!
In a message dated 03/15/2001 5:12:19 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I just wanted to write and report that I can finally watch TAGS again. My
> cable company has finally gotten wise and added TVLAND to its lineup. I
> can't begin to tell you how happy I am. If only they would have gotten it
> sooner, then I could have enjoyed the marathon this past weekend. Well,
> maybe next time.
>
> April
>
>
I still do not have TV Land on my cable line-up and am so happy for you,
April, and all the others that enjoy having it. Our cable company says they
are adding it but I haven't seen it yet. So happy "TAGS" watching to you
April. I can imagine how you must feel! Keep a good thought for us folks here
in the Athens, AL area ...maybe we will get it soon.
Crystal M. in AL
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:12:03 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Loaded goat
In a message dated 03/15/2001 5:12:19 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> . What I am wondering is what ever happened to that goat?
> Did he still go "blooey"? Did he eventually dilute the dynamite enough to
> get rid of it? I have wondered and worried about that goat! What a thing
> to
> worry about, right? Just wanted some thoughts on the matter.
>
> Have a good day! :)
> jenny in bama
>
>
Good question, Jen. I have often wondered about this myself. But I didn't
waste too much time on it because this episode is one of my least favorites.
The reason is the harmonica music. I have nothing against a nice, lively
little mouth harp selection, but this one is so SAD! Every time I hear that
music, it makes me feel depressed. I know what the song is and everything,
but it just makes me feel down.
Now that you have brought it up, however, I sure hope someone out there can
tell us what might have happened to the goat. Maybe that's why the music is
so sad, it's kind of like they are leading him off and playing funeral music
for him. Someone please say it ain't so!!
Crystal M. in AL
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:36:43 -0600
From: "Linda Poindexter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dry County/moonshining
I thought I had finally thought of a question to ask that hadn't been
covered, but I think you got it before me - well, maybe not quite. A lot
of the storylines have Andy and Barney looking for a still - was there
really that much "moonshining" going on back then? Even back when the show
originally aired, I had never heard of anyone actually "moonshining" after
the anti-liquor law was repealed. Comments, gang?
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:10:54 -0600
From: "The Hendersons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: the loaded goat episode
Hey, there is one very important thing overlooked in that loaded goat episode.
If the dynamite is gonna explode.......
it would do it WHEN the goat first bit into it. I know they had to "milk the
scenes" with all the hay and padding in the goat's cell, but, honestly, what
would make that Dynamite explode when the goat got mad or was moved
around,(dynamite
in its stomach) when it didn't even explode when he ate it, blasting cap or
no blasting cap?hey from branson
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:09:44 -0600
From: Paul Mulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: script continuity
>>>I noticed the role of "Script Continuity" which was held by Hazel Hall.
This title would suggest that her
job was to either make sure inconsistencies in the script (i.e., Clara
Edwards, Clara Johnson, and Bertha Johnson being the name of one character)
were avoided or that the script "flowed". What were the actual
responsibilities of this role?
>>>
The script continuity person (known in the trade as the "script girl") was
responsible for seeing that things were consistent WITHIN every episode, but
not from one episode to the next. They didn't worry too much about the
latter back then, because without videotape and syndication, most little
mistakes would never have been noticed.
TAGS was always shot with only one camera, but most scenes used three
different camera angles, or however many the director wanted. They would
shoot the whole scene from one angle, then move the camera (and lights, if
necessary) and shoot the entire scene again, and keep doing this until they
had everything filmed.
The script girl would constantly take notes during shooting. Her job was to
make sure everything looked the same in all of the different camera angles,
and this was NOT easy (a few mistakes were inevitable). In her copy of the
script, she might write things like "Barney has his cap in his left hand,
Andy has his feet propped on his desk, Otis is standing in front of the
water cooler with a paper cup in his right hand" and things of this nature.
If the cast and crew took a break (i.e. for lunch), when it was time to
start shooting again, it was up to her to make sure everybody was positioned
exactly the same as before.
Guess who was the script girl for the old "Our Gang" films: None other than
Ellen Corby, "Hubcaps" Lesch herself.
- --Paul
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:15:02 -0600
From: Paul Mulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: overalls
>>>From: "Nathan Mylott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
That's a good question on the two regular cast members that have worn
overalls. The only one I can think of is Major Pike while house painting.
Beats me on the other one.
>>>
That's right, Mayor Pike was one of the two I had in mind (the episode is
"Mayberry Goes Bankrupt.")
- --Paul
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:22:40 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Continuity
To the issue brought by "Rice, Steven R."
regarding: "Question for the Experts", yes, Hazel Hall was listed in the
credits of a number of episodes of TAGS as the person responsible for
"Script/Continuity". Keep in mind though, Steven, that television was still
relatively new at the time and that a number of mishaps, gaffs and outright
inconsistencies managed to get captured on film in the face of the producers'
efforts to catch such blunders or oversights before publication and mass
distribution even though most TV shows were filmed live and transposed via
The Kinescope or Cinemascope Processes that were "State of the Art" at that
time [ Re: John Ford's and Alfred Hitchcock's early movies, and, more
relevantly, TV shows like Your Show of Shows, The Honeymooners, The Milton
Berle Show, etc. of the era to include THE TALL MAN, SUGARFOOT, YANCY
DERRINGER, DAVEY CROCKETT, DANIEL BOONE, SURFSIDE SIX, JOHNNY RINGO,
SEVENTY-SEVEN SUNSET STRIP, HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL, THE AMOS & ANDY SHOW, MY
THREE DAUGHTERS, THE DOBEY GILLIS SHOW, THE EDGE OF NIGHT, SKY KING, SEARCH
FOR TOMORROW, WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE, GIDGET, OZZIE & HARRIETT, MARGIE, PETER
GUNN, MA & PA KETTLE, TOPPER, SHIRLEY TEMPLE, TEXACO THEATRE, DEATH VALLEY
DAYS, STUDIO 90, AD INFINITUM FINITE]
Additionally, the "script girl" as (she) they were called back then, was not
and is not at all responsible for episodic storyline inconsistencies like
'same actor-different name', 'same name-different actor', etc. Nor even
blatant aberrations of story plots, character personas, timelines, locales,
props or references to previous shows.
The duties of the continuity person has evolved to include the use of
Polaroid stills, video and audio assist recordings and computerized script
notations of glitches and gaffs that effect the final product. Nowadays, the
role of the continuity person is a vitally important craft role since many
scenes are filmed out of scripted storyline sequence and many times on
different days [to accommodate the logistics of the availability's of
actor(s), locations, crews and other potential scheduling issues]; sometimes
with multiple actors who appear in a given scene whose performances may
happen after the 'master shot' is completed and who may even have to perform
their characters' role without the benefit of the master scene being replayed
nor by 'feedlines or action(s)' by the actor who originally played in the
master scene. The continuity craftsperson has to assure and insure that
things as simple as the amount of a beverage in a glass is consistent from
take-to-take / scene-to-scene, or that if an actor did something with his/her
left hand in the master shot - that they used the same hand for the same
action in any subsequent shot. If the wardrobe master or mistress allowed
someone's collar to be flipped, wrinkled or crimped, the continuity
supervisor has to make sure that it stays the same in all scenes unless the
correction or change of such is evident and obvious or evident on camera.
[In this day of computerized animation, especially with animated or CGI
(Computer Generated Imagery) mosttimes an actor plays to a blank blue or
green background screen [called Chroma-Key, or Ultimatte] where electronic
wizardry uses mathematical algorithms to place designated images anywhere the
computer senses the mathematic codes for the color blue or green {or any
other designated color} as a replacement for that colors algorithmic
'footprint'. This type production places tremendous demands on the director
AND especially, the continuity supervisor.
Additionally, the continuity supervisors' script notes are highly critical
for use in editing and in any other post production and he or she has to work
very closely with the camera assistant because their production notes and
comments have to be symbiotic for seamless postproduction.
I'm sure that this is more than you asked for or even wanted to know, Steven,
but I am the purveyor of trivial trivialities {much to ol' Barns chagrin}.
Anyways, it won't matter next week or even a hunnert years from now. S-o-o,
in future, be careful what you ask for ( don't hate me just 'cause I'm
loquacious!!! [some might say 'fullovit']
Tom (Henri D.) Strongbow
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