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Today's Topics:
1. Paramount address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
2. Mr. Schwamp's occupation (Janet Anderson)
3. Re: Aunt Bee & Will Geer (gretchen)
4. Paramount address - Sample letter ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
5. ice tea season (wade c)
6. RE: Regarding the Fire Department: (CAPT .)
7. Re: DVD edits ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
8. Re: characters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
9. Re: Ernest T ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
10. RE: Grandpa Walton (Will Geer) (Paul Gilkes)
11. names (Jeff Krentz)
12. Young Charms ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
13. Re: Do Brains Count or is Fun All Your After (Lydia)
14. Miss Lou & supper (Kim)
15. Re: Convicts at Large episode ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 3:24:52 +0000
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Paramount address
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
For those wishing to line up and file complaints to Paramount here is their
snail mail address. I'm working on locating an email address but I would
encourage using pen and paper and the good ole postal service. Emails are to
easily deleted.
Paramount Studios
5555 Melrose Avenue
Hollywood, CA 90038
Attn. Home Entertainment Division
Lets give 'em a bunch of "official verifications" that we are not happy with
the way they've handled Season 3 but lets do it with a little disgression.
Remember they could very easily pull the plug on the other seasons if they
choose. Write your letter as Andy would have...from the heart.
-Ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:28:14 -0500
From: "Janet Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mr. Schwamp's occupation
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>I believe that Mr. Schwamp was a Mortician.<<<
Joe, I think you are absolutely brilliant to come up with this theory! All
your points are very logical. And you're right--Mr. Schwamp has just the sort
of personality to be a successful mortician. I heartily subscribe to your
theory, and thanks for sharing it!
Miss Lou (Thelma, that is)
(a.k.a. Janet)
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: gretchen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aunt Bee & Will Geer
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi - I haven't posted here before but love to research so did google for Aunt
Bee & Will Geer.
I found this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002095/, Will Geer's listing on IMDB
(a great resource) for his
two part role on Mayberry RFD 'Aunt Bee's Cruise' in 1969.
On another note, I saw the episode today where Andy and Helen go off to the
lake for the day, only to be constantly
interrupted by Barney. I was wondering about out-takes of this episode, as
Barney really outdid himself, and as the 'lake' is actually in the Hollywood
Hills, where they filmed the dam for Earthquake also. Trying to be 'in'
Mayberry while looking at LA, and then Barney misbehaving, must've had the
entire crew LOL.
Whistlin',
Gretchen
Northern CA
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 4:03:49 +0000
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Paramount address - Sample letter
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Below is a copy of the letter that I am sending to Paramount. Again, it is my
opinion that it should be kept light. I don't think it would be a good idea to
threaten with, "I'm not buying any more if this is what you are going to do".
We want them to understand just how important it is to us that every episode
remain as it was 40 years ago. Also, make sure you include your name and
address at the bottom of the letter-it just adds a little sincerity.
I cannot imagine what the reason(s) were for them editing some of these but
whatever it was/is, maybe we can make a difference for future releases. The pen
is mightier than the sword and hopefully for all TAGS fans mightier than the
editing room scissors as well.
*******SAMPLE LETTER***********
Paramount Studios
Home Entertainment
Dear Sirs:
First I want to thank you for bringing to the world the recently released DVD's
of The Andy Griffith Show.
I'm sure you know that there are millions of TV viewers who grew up with this
show and now their children's children are also enjoying it.
One of my favorite memories of my children who are now grown and moved away
from home is seeing them lying on living room floor watching TAGS reruns. This
show has been and continues to be an important part of TV entertainment
history. But I'm sure you already know this.
Another reason for my letter is to express some sadness at the way a few of the
episodes in Season Three were handled, specifically the editing of a few of the
epilogs.
To a true TAGS fan, this is horrible thing to have happen. We don't care how
bad the quality of a clip is or if the sound synch is off. What is paramount
(no pun intended) is that every second of every episode be included in these
releases.
So I respectfully request that you consider this request for any future DVD
releases of this enduring and loved piece of entertainment history.
Again, thank you.
Sincerely,
Ray Hadorn
(address)
******END SAMPLE LETTER*****************
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 00:01:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: wade c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ice tea season
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
I live in the southern part of ohio y'all and down here ice tea never goes out
of season but up north in alot of restaurants ice tea is considered a summer
drink and near fall they will stop serving ice tea.
one stray dog in from the rain in ohio
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:15:21 -0600
From: "CAPT ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Regarding the Fire Department:
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
guess it be close enough tho, Mt. Pilot is what, 12 miles?
course if mayberry wants an ambulance, I know where to get them one.
www.professionalcar.org -------Actually this is a relly good site, it has
collections of the old style ambulances, cadillacs, pontiacs, oldsmobiles
etc. Many are for sale too.
Seems as I remember on one of the mayberry get togethers, with squad cars
and all, there was a 65 Pontiac hightop ambulance that was with the parade
of squad cars. I snagged a pic of it, good looking rig indeed.
>In addition to the references noted, I think Andy mentioned at Jubal
Foster's place something about the "Volunteer Fire Brigade". Also to be
more specific, when Gomer was staying with the Taylor's they mentioned a
Boiled Dinner down at the Firehouse. Good notice though, that we never
see a fire truck or ambulance in Mayberry. I guess the ambulance would
have to come from Mt. Pilot.<
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:17:00 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DVD edits
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
In a message dated 8/24/05 10:08:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> it seems akin to removing Matthew from The Holy Bible. is there anything
> we can do to get Paramount to re-do it??? take their time and get it right??
> get the original tapes and include all the scenes & original footage.
>
Actually it's more like leaving chapter 3, verse 16 out of the book of John.
This may have been an oversight in the rush to get so many of these out on
the Paramount timetable, they're rushing a lot of their TV show inventory onto
DVD to get some money out of their archive. Maybe they couldn't locate the
originals by the deadline or they couldn't finish the restoration by then.
Didn't someone say only two episodes were edited, and only two were missing the
"cast commercials"? Are they the same two?
Dixon
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:20:33 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: characters
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
In a message dated 8/24/05 10:08:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 1) Orville Monroe who operated the Funeral Home/TV repair shop
> disappeared after Episode 15. We know that George eventually took over
> the TV repair business..but in is left unclear who took over the funeral
> business.
>
I would love to have seen more of the funeral home owner/TV repairman, he was
so funny! I remember him talking about some poor lady, and everyone seems
momentarily sad until he says her picture tube went out.
Dixon
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:28:36 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ernest T
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
In a message dated 8/24/05 10:08:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I suppose it's possible. Nobody in Mayberry ever refers to Ernest T. Bass
> as "Ernest" (though he is addressed simply as "Bass" once or twice).
>
By the way, when Howard Morris died, one of our news producers had never
heard of the Ernest T. character. He actually went through my script and
changed
his name to "Ernest Bass" because a consultant once told him to eliminate
middle initials as much as possible. I tried to tell him that *no one* on the
show
ever called him Ernest, they called him Ernest T, he even called himself
that, but it just went in one ear and out the other. Fortunately the anchor,
who
knew better, changed it back to "Ernest T."
I roll my eyes when someone mentions the phrase "news consultant" around me,
but that's a rant for another forum.
Dixon
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:27:39 -0400
From: "Paul Gilkes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Grandpa Walton (Will Geer)
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Will Geer, best known as Grandpa Walton, appeared in back to back Mayberry
RFD episodes in January 1969 as Captain Wolford in "Aunt Bee's Cruise, Part
I and Part II.
Paul Gilkes
Sidney, Ohio
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:48:26 -0400
From: Jeff Krentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: names
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>I never could figure out why Charlie Brown's friends always address him by
>his full name. Why don't they just call him Charlie?
I always liked it when Peppermint Patty called him "Chuck"
Jeff Krentz -BigHead in Dee-Troit
(O'Malley says "The Bigger they are, the nicer they are!")
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:17:14 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Young Charms
To: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain
I just finished watching a movie from '63 called "Dementia 13" and I heard the
song that Rafe sings to Barney before the Singing Try-outs, something with
Young Charms In It (as an Instrumental). And I was wondering, what the name of
the song was and when did It come out ? Jeff Doege
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:20:55 -0400
From: Lydia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do Brains Count or is Fun All Your After
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I was over at the dime store picking out a fish knife and
me and Laura Lee Hobbs finished the conversation we got started in Sunday
School, namely which Fun Girl do you consider the most fun. Our class got to
talking about The
Girls because the text had been about reaching out to people different from
ourselves, and I guess you could see
how that would veer us in the direction of those two. Not
that Daphne (Hello, Doll) and Skippy (Let's Listen to Bernie) are not fine
women. They are. They are friendly and they are forgiving and they probably
had the first female prison ministry in this state.
But it still didn't answer the question which girl would be the most fun. I
vote for Skippy and Laura Lee holds out
firmly for Daphne, saying she is obviously both fun and the smarts behind the
operation. I say in this situation smarts don't count, and off we go...
Oh, well, I've got fish to fry.
Lydia,
"Let's play jail! Let's play jail! We've never been in jail before except
to visit friends." (Now I bet those are words you will never hear from Helen!)
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:38:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Miss Lou & supper
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
"Lou is Thelma's last name"
You know what they say about great minds Jeff.
"In the Lone Star state, Aunt Bee says: 'Would you like a Peppa with your
suppa?'" That's cute, I'd liked to have heard that. In my family we had the
habit of referring to anything carbonated as either a cold drink or a coke.
"Would you like a coke?" Sure "What kind?" a Dr Pepper. But we did eat dinner
at noon and supper at night, Opie would have corrected us on that.
Kim - Wylie, TX
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:53:56 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Convicts at Large episode
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
In watching my set of TAGS season 3 DVDs, I can't tell that "Convicts at
Large" was edited. It seems the same to me...but being only a trained
noticer-in-training, I could be wrong.
I did notice one thing...Big Maude was wearing high heels, but Sally and
Naomi had on flats....I would imagine prison inmates wouldn't be issued heels
to
wear, but perhaps Big Maude wore them when she wasn't using her alias as
Ralph Henderson! What would AL think?
I LOVE this episode, too....and especially the dance with Barney and Big
Maude. HILARIOUS. Some of Don Knotts' best comedy along with Howard Mc Near.
And, I'm very fond of the shows with Peggy Macmillan (Joanna Moore). She was
such a good actress, and seemed "at home" in Mayberry. Wish there would
have been more shows with Peggy and Andy.
I read in Tatum O'Neal's ( Joanna Moore's and Ryan O'Neal's daughter) book
she died an alcoholic, and her marriage with O' Neal was quite abusive).
Very sad.
Oh, the original sponsor spots on this DVD set are great!
I 'preciate it and good night!
jaywalkin' joan in charlotte
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