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Today's Topics:
1. season 3 (brian hall)
2. Screen Door ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
3. Re: Mr Schwump ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
4. Lou, Thelma (Jeff Krentz)
5. Aunt Bee and Grandpa Walton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
6. Pickups and Splashes from Floor and Pool by The Untrained
Voice (GRITTON, JOE A (SBC-OPS))
7. Grandpa Walton (Will Geer) (Jeff Krentz)
8. RE: Thelma Lou and Floyd, the early years (Ed O'Dwyer)
9. first and last name (Paul Mulik)
10. Cap'n Walton (Paul Mulik)
11. Tongue twister (Carol Stonemetz)
12. it's Wednesday...mini marathon of TAGS :) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
13. Peggy (Nick Freyling)
14. Aunt Bee's Engagement (Steve and Lisa Light)
15. "Preamble" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
16. RE: Reunion Episode (CAPT .)
17. TAGS songs (CAPT .)
18. Aunt Bee in Texas (Albert Acevedo)
19. Season # Edits Question (Parks, Jim)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:13:57 -0400
From: "brian hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: season 3
To: <[email protected]>
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hey,
this is disheartening to hear about what Paramount did to Season 3 of TAGS.
i'm So enjoying Season Two right now & was so looking forward to Season Three
until i read what they did to it...it seems akin to removing Matthew from The
Holy Bible. is there anything we can do to get Paramount to re-do it??? take
their time and get it right?? get the original tapes and include all the scenes
& original footage.
thomas b. moody
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:15:14 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Screen Door
To: [email protected]
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Here's one for you folks who are Officially Licensed Trained Noticers:
When did Andy take the screen door off the front of his house?
Ed's Refrigeration - When you need to Call the Man...I'M THE MAN!
Hwy 6 @ The Robert E. Lee Natural Bridge Exit
Mt. Pilot, NC
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:24:35 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mr Schwump
To: [email protected]
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>> All of this is based in the fact that he had to have had plenty of money to
>> afford
>> such a nice toupee. That would have had to have been imported from as far
>> away as Raleigh or maybe even Charlotte or Roanoke.
It may have even came all the way from Ft. Lauderdale like Mrs. Mendlebright's
dresser!
As for his occupation...Don't let that kindly smile fool you. I think he was
the supervisor at the telephone company who made poor ole Sarah practically
live at that switchboard. It seemed like she was on duty 24/7. No wonder she
had so many aches and pains that she complained about to Andy.
"Soak it Sarah"
George "Tex" Foley
Eastmont, NC
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:24:22 -0400
From: Jeff Krentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lou, Thelma
To: [email protected]
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:04:13 -0500 (CDT), you wrote:
>A thought occurred to me. Since Betty Lynn's last name was a common first
>name, perhaps Thelma Lou's last name was Lou. But that would mean everyone
>went around calling her by her first and last name all the time. I work in a
>company with predominately Asian employees. It is common for them to refer to
>each other by the last name first, then first name.
>
>Kim - TX, Wylie
>
RE: Lou is Thelma's last name
As a trained noticer (at least in my own mind) I proposed that theory to
the group a few years ago - without much response, hah. My theory is
that "Lou" was Thel's last name, and she worked in "an office" that
nobody ever saw, maybe employed with those green ink counterfeit guys
before they moved downtown. Kind of mysterious isn't it. She had a nice
house, though.
Remember the show "That Girl" - her name was Ann Marie - (nice name,
almost as nice as Halcyon Loretta Winslow) Then you found out that her
father's name was Lou Marie.
Anyway, good observation.
Jeff Krentz -BigHead in Dee-Troit
(O'Malley says "His name would have to be Don!")
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:25:43 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Aunt Bee and Grandpa Walton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think they got engaged on an episode of Mayberry RFD. As quite typically
happens on TV shows, it is canceled at the last moment......
Maybe there's a breach of promise suit in there somehwere......?
Brad "Neil Bentley" Cunningham
"My card, in case you ever need my services...."
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:39:47 -0400
From: "GRITTON, JOE A \(SBC-OPS\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pickups and Splashes from Floor and Pool by The Untrained
Voice
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Regarding the Fire Department:
In addition to the references noted, I think Andy mentioned at Jubal
Foster's place something about the "Volunteer Fire Brigade". Also to be
more specific, when Gomer was staying with the Taylor's they mentioned a
Boiled Dinner down at the Firehouse. Good notice though, that we never
see a fire truck or ambulance in Mayberry. I guess the ambulance would
have to come from Mt. Pilot.
Regarding Mr. Schwamp's occupation
I'm a self-proclaimed Schwamp Expert ( I originated the theory and
presented evidence that Mr. Schwamp is a bit of a Root Beer-aholic) so
I'm going to state my expert opinion/speculation on his occupation.
I believe that Mr. Schwamp was a Mortician. Her are the supporting
facts for this theory
1) Orville Monroe who operated the Funeral Home/TV repair shop
disappeared after Episode 15. We know that George eventually took over
the TV repair business..but in is left unclear who took over the funeral
business.
2) Mr. Schwamp was usually seen wearing a suit. With all due respect
to some of the other guesses, this is one job among others where a suit
would be worn.
3) He picked up the rock at Mrs. Wiley's party. With no law
enforcement officer's present--he was the closest to an evidence
specialist present, based on his experience with forensics.
4) He never had to work much. We know that there were very few deaths
in Mayberry .Tom Silby (handled by out of town coroner) Willis Cundiff
(kicked by a mule) Andy's wife presumably at one time?? Briscoe
Darling's wife and her former husband (ran over by a team of hogs) So
it stands to reason that the funeral business was about as dead (pun
intended) as the Lawyerin' business in Mayberry. He was just standin'
around waitin' for somebody to die.
5) Those sad times that you do have to go to a funeral home, what do
you want to see? A Smile and a Nod, perhaps a firm hand grasp. That's
our Schwamp, those are his qualities! A man of few words that warms up
a room.
6) His hair?? Lets just say he had good contacts in the fake hair
business.
7) His quiet disposition. Nobody wants a blabber-mouth talking about
the dead..how bad they were deformed from mule kicks or hog stampedes.
He was also pretty hush about the whole Tom Silby fiasco even though
that was during Orville's time in charge.
So that's my story and I'm stickin with it. Think about it.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Margaret. thanks for mentioning the archives. I like to do research
there, just like Barney does at the Library. I've been stymied on some
current research because the library is closed (I thought maybe the
librarian was on a saxophone tour or something).
-----------------------------------
That Navy Man that Aunt Bee dated, I believe was an episode of Mayberry
RFD. (she dated a ship captain then I know)
---------------------------------
Thanks for the Gold-Brick Wheeler reference when I mentioned gold
bricks as currency. That made me LOL.
---------------------------------
Anita Carpenter--Good job on noticing the dual role of that "Teacher"
The actress Virginia Sale indeed played both parts. I don't think the
teachers names are given. Here's one for you..Did you know that
Anabelle Silby was the same lady as the Shoplifter??? (no kidding) That
one kind of surprised me...or that Mrs. McGruder's cousin was the same
lady that busted up the Bookie Barber scam!! (ugly woman ha ha)
---------------------------------
Thanks for all the in-law answers. That was even more than I had.
Howard met his future in-laws in Wheeling, but they never really became
his in-laws. Any more?
--------------------------------
Sorry so windy this time, lots to catch up on, and just had to get that
theory on the Schwamp case out.
The Untrained Voice
.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:31:25 -0400
From: Jeff Krentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Grandpa Walton (Will Geer)
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:04:13 -0500 (CDT), you wrote:
>I remember a colored episode where Aunt Bee became engaged to a Navy man,
>played
>by Will Geer. Does anyone remember this episode?
Will Geer has no Mayberry credits that I remember or can find on the
internet.
I can't remember Aunt Bee being "engaged" either. She got kind of
serious with the lecturer, the senator and maybe Roger Hanover, but
otherwise, I'm not keeping up here.
Jeff Krentz -BigHead in Dee-Troit
(O'Malley says "Hang it on the Wall!")
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:37:44 -0400
From: "Ed O'Dwyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Thelma Lou and Floyd, the early years
To: <[email protected]>
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>>I saw a movie a while back with a younger Betty Lynn>>
I recently saw the Fred MacMurray film "Father was a Fullback" and Betty
Lynn had a major part as his teenage daughter. Great fun to see her in it.
While I'm on the subject of pre-TAGS performances, I have been listening to
old radio programs on my "Ipod" and am currently listing to 1950s radio
series "Nero Wolfe" starring Sidney Greenstreet. Our own Howard McNeer has
a part in a great many of them. Most of the time I don't recognize his
voice at first, but in "The Case of the Midnight Ride" he is the prototype
of Floyd. Give it a listen. Here is the link.
http://www.radiolovers.com/pages/nerowolfe.htm
Gomer says "Hey!"
Ed O'Dwyer
"History! That's my Subject!" Chapter
Alpharetta, GA
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:19:50 -0500
From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: first and last name
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>>Since Betty Lynn's last name was a common first name, perhaps Thelma
Lou's last name was Lou. But that would mean everyone went around calling
her by her first and last name all the time.
I suppose it's possible. Nobody in Mayberry ever refers to Ernest T. Bass
as "Ernest" (though he is addressed simply as "Bass" once or twice).
I never could figure out why Charlie Brown's friends always address him by
his full name. Why don't they just call him Charlie?
--Paul
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:31:26 -0500
From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cap'n Walton
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>>I remember a colored episode where Aunt Bee became engaged to a Navy man,
played
by Will Geer. Does anyone remember this episode?
Silvia
>>>
You're remembering a two-part story from Mayberry RFD (which was always in
color, hence the confusion). The episodes were
entitled "Aunt Bee's Cruise" and "Aunt Bee and the Captain." The first one
has a unique feature never used in any other RFD or TAGS episode: a
narrator's voiceover and the end of the episode. It was one of those
melodramatic soap-opera-like speeches, something along the lines of "Will
Aunt Bee and the Captain find true romance? Tune in next week to find out!"
--Paul
P.S. There may never be any commercially-produced DVDs of Mayberry RFD, but
has anybody here made their own from episodes recorded off TV? I'd sure
like to get a set of those. I'd even consider trading my licorice seeds.
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:25:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carol Stonemetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tongue twister
To: TAGS <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Another version of Barney's tongue twister is: With sturdy wrists and loudest
boasts, he thrusts his fists against a post and still insists he sees a ghost.
I've noticed that Andy and Barney seem to be really enjoying hauling Ernest T.
out of Mrs. Wiley's house. As they are both trying to get him through the door
and he is hanging on for dear life, I'm sure Andy and Barney are trying not to
laugh.
As for iced tea in the North, give us Yankees a break. It gets cold up here
and we consider iced tea a hot weather drink. We're still nice people (most of
us).
Carol, from WNY - the part that no one knows exists.
Kind behind the eyes.
Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.
James Thurber
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:14:52 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: it's Wednesday...mini marathon of TAGS :)
To: [email protected]
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Gosh, Paw...it's Wednesday and you know what that means...well..guess...aw
c'mon just guess!
mini marathon of TAGS on TV Land tonite at 7 PM!
As a beginner to the digest, and a trained noticer-in-training, I'm lovin'
this!
Barney "Fast Gun Fife" is my hero. I keep Don Knotts in my prayers and hope
he gets stronger each day....
A name or two perhaps to add to the list of numerous characters we only see
or hear of once or twice.....how about Jeff Pritchard ("if you see Jeff, tell
him I'm a lookin' for him", and Uncle Fred, Ellie's uncle..only on a few
times that I can recall....and Franklin Pomeroy.."has the cutest button of a
nose". And, George the TV repair man for Helen's TV set...of course Howard
Morris in disguise...or would that be Ernest T. Bass in disguise? Or George
Foley..yep," I could pick him out in a Sunday School picnic...could you pick
him
out on a porch??" (another great scene where Andy tries to hide that smile).
Oh, and Phoebe....we never did learn what ole' Barn heard about her, did we?
Perhaps she told it to Laura Lee Hobbs at the dime store....or it might have
been written up in Mayberry After Midnite?!
Anyone ever see the episode of Andy on the Danny Thomas Show..where we first
meet Andy!!!??? it was great! I have it taped...wish I could find it on
DVD. And Frances Bavier is in the cast, but not as Aunt Bee!
Take good care all....I'm about to pop my popcorn and have a nip of that
sweet cider tonite watching the shows....oh, not to worry..it's just mulberry
squeezins...
jaywalkin' joan in charlotte
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:21:00 -0700
From: Nick Freyling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Peggy
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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We've had this discussion before, but of all the women who were on the
show, the best by far was Peggy McMillan (Joanna Moore). She was perky.
She was pretty. She had spunk. She could cook. Her father was rich (not
a necessity, but not that bad either). She was a Southerner (loved the
way she talked). And even though she didn't know how to fish, she looked
great in blue jeans. Wonder if she liked iced tea (sweetened or
unsweetened)?
Nick in Arizona
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:23:09 -0400
From: "Steve and Lisa Light" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Aunt Bee's Engagement
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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In response to Silvia, there was an episode where Aunt Bee was engaged to Will
Geer. (Actually it was a 2-part episode if my memory is correct.) But this
was on Mayberry RFD.
Steve
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:35:29 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "Preamble"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Could someone please tell me the name of the episode when Barney
recites the "Preamble"? Thanks in advance.
Anita
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:50:32 -0600
From: "CAPT ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Reunion Episode
To: [email protected]
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was that millie and tillie, the 2 women who ran moonshine.
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:24:28 -0600
From: "CAPT ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TAGS songs
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I come up w/ this idea along time ago. I got 15/16 VHS tapes of TAGS, 3 of
which are 6 hrs long/ w/ no commercials so what I wanna do is take all the
ones with the songs done on it, by the darlings and others and just make a
tape of TAGS episodes just with the music done on it. I ain't talking of the
songs with the screwups etc, where Barney can't sing, but when they actually
do the song, such as Gomer and the choir doing Santa Lucia. This'd be
indeed a collectors item. I gotta get a 2nd workable VCR tho first. The
Dooley song on Return to Mayberry would be in with that.
I did get the words to briiscoe's song Low and Lonely in it's entirety. He
only did the chorus of it.
Chorus
Low and lonely, sad and blue
Thinking only, of little you
Always trying, to keep from crying
I'm low and lonely over you
1. Do you miss me, say you do
Tell me darling, please tell me true
Do you yearn dear, for my return dear
I'm low and lonely over you
2. Low and lonely, weary too
You're the only, true love I knew
Don't be long dear, you know it's wrong dear
I'm low and lonely over you
3. You're my darling, you're my dear
You can trust me, so never fear
How I miss you, I long to kiss you
I'm low and lonely over you
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:40:15 -0700
From: "Albert Acevedo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Aunt Bee in Texas
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In the Lone Star state, Aunt Bee says: "Would you like a Peppa with your
suppa?"
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:06:55 -0400
From: "Parks, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Season # Edits Question
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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And if I recall, "The Darlings are Coming" is one of the 16 so-called "public
domain" episodes that have been circulating on VHS and DVD for years, and at
least one of those public domain DVDs I have *does* have the epilogue.
Dixon
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Dixon - Please let me know all the episodes that have had epilogs deleted or
other editing done on the Season #3 DVD's.
I am very interested to know if 'Convicts at Large' has been edited. Thank
you, Jim
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