Peter, your point is what exactly? You can't make a browser do what it isn't equipped to do. If I don't have a flash viewer (and I don't for my Opera) you can't push a flash animation -- I won't see anything but a blank space. Nor could I view a pdf file without an Acrobat Reader. You can't just do what you want as a page designer; this is a medium where the audience is also a participant, and a very central one.
If you point is that much of the processing load, particularly at large sites, is being shifted to the backend, that's very true. J2EE and .NET are all about shifting processing to their servers which makes the audience less a participant and more a recipient. And that would be a loss for the internet. If you mean pages should be written according to W3C CSS standards, well yes of course. That would make the pages available for use with other media. And if you mean this, then I feel compelled to mention that your site is not CSS compliant. Your use of tables for presentation is inappropriate, according to the W3C. And this is the major weakness of push technology: the pages created are generally non-compliant for CSS and for accessibility. This is, in my opinion, an inevitable result of using html editors which are based on tables. At this point it takes human intervention to make compliant pages. But that isn't really a concern for many push advocates: as a group they would be happy to shift the locus of control of the internet from the client to the supplier. A passive audience is a good thing for many push advocates. Personally, I favor participation and therefore support standards. andy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [WEB] Any handy solution to embed fonts into HTML pages regardless of the visitors' browsers Very, very good. Now, Andy let extend your logic, 1. There is no robust way to "embed" anything in the browser (client). 2. So, the only proper technological approach is a server-side push. 3. Doing that in a theory we can present any content anywhere, or at least to map the content for a different presentation environment (WML, HTML, VoiceXML, SVG, PDF, etc, etc,) 4. Conclusion - see my original post; learn a better way of the web sites development. Regards, Peter. P.S. Unfornutely, site is down. "Trusz, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As far as I know, the only way to embed a font is to create a file for it >and download it to the client which uses it for that session and then >deletes it. And the process of creating the file is proprietary -- a side >battle of the browser wars. So, I guess then the answer is no, you can't >embed a font regardless of the visitor's browser. > >andy > __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ____ * The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM * ____ To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% ____ � The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM � ____ To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
