I find this discussion interesting. I do not consider myself a programmer because I do not like to write programs. I can and do write code though given a choice I'd rather use something already written or give that part of a project to someone who likes to write code.
I took one programming class back in 1975 using "basic". Then didn't touch it again until I started writing HTML back in 93-94. Even then it wasn't "programming" but "formatting" using HTML. By 98-99 I wanted to do some database/server side stuff so I took a class called something like "Intro to ASP for the Non-Programmer" followed by a "Beginning ASP" class. I have worked with Access both on and off the web and learned enough SQL for my needs. Later I had a client that wanted a calendar "just like in Access" so I used Visual Basic.NET. Unlike my partner who is a programmer I had very little problems going from Vbscript to the object oriented VB.NET because I did not have preconceptions of how VB was supposed to work. This maybe the source of some of BJ's misgivings about his ability to deal with object oriented programming. Yet, once BJ gets over the frustration about the different code model he'll be productive quickly. I do not write C# or PHP but I can recognized the function and structure so with the type of code reference that BJ mentioned I can get a task done it if primarily relates to editing code or adding a bit of functionality in either of those languages. That's where BJ's statements caught my eye. I do not consider myself a programmer but someone with enough familiarity with programming to function. On this list my abilities when it comes to programming are trivial compared to those like BJ, Rudy and other to numerous to mention. On other lists server code questions get thrown to me as the "expert" because the majority know even less than I do. Along the way I have picked enough "programming" that while I do not consider myself a programmer other who I work with do. Knowing enough to recognize and follow someone else's code is all I ever wanted to know and I do not ever wish to write programs whether for the web or use on a desktop/server from scratch. Frankly, it amazes me that I can look at C# and "see" how it works/breaks when I have never worked with C# and have no desire to do so. In some ways I find it quite depressing because I end up doing more programming than I care to do because I can and not because I want to. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer MS-MVP-FrontPage www.wiserways.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 713.353.0139 Office -----Original Message----- From: rudy > My point being, it's like driving a car. If you can drive, you can drive, nice post, bj sql is like that too once you know sql, you can use any database like oracle, sybase, access, mysql, postgresql, firebird, sql server, et cetera, et cetera the difference, though, is that there *is* an sql language, a generic, standard language, which you can learn independently of any database system neat, eh? ____ • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • ____ To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
